|
bbrah
Regular
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Vehicle(s): 460.233 (1980 280GE LWB)
Posts: 68
| Peugeot P4 Surplus
Since France is now phasing in the new Panhard PVP/Auverland A4 AVL family of vehicles, does that mean that there will be surplus Peugeot P4's for sale by the French military?
I've seen a few Ex-Military P4's for sale for prices that are considerably cheaper than a comparable Gwagen (like 6K Euros). Most of them are 2-door soft-top as well.
I don't know just how much of these trucks are MB, but I know that they have Peugeot engine and transmission. It would be interesting to see what's interchangeable.
Does anyone have experience with these trucks? Are there any forum members in France?
 (p4-turbo.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
 p4-turbo.jpg (52KB - 122 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
TWODOGS
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: UK
Vehicle(s): Norwegian Army 240GD
Posts: 584
| RE: Peugeot P4 Surplus
the P4 looks fantastic stripped down ,
Twodogs |
|
| |
|
JMKOZ
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Vehicle(s): 2018 G300 cdi Professional Wagon
Posts: 155
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
The motor and gearbox are the main components. It is the Peugeot 2.5 4 cylinder diesel (XD3) in most vehicles with a BA10/5 gearbox. These items are from the 505 Peugeot range and they have a very nice intercooled turbo version of this same engine (although not available in the military vehicles - the XD3T) which would make a good conversion to a standard P4. Dash, instruments, steering wheel and seats are different and most only have the rear diff lock (no front). Headlights and tailights are different (Peugeot 104 Headlights) and depending on the variant the bonnet can also be different (It is interesting that there is a vented bonnet available for the intercooled motor). There is a civilian variant of the military P4 but these command higher prices. You may even find a V6 petrol (PRV) variant, although an original one of these would be hard to find. I have an old parts microfiche somwhere but it is fair to say that P4 parts are tres expensive! I hope that this helps. John
Edited by JMKOZ 6/25/2007 4:22 PM
|
|
| |
|
Steve D
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Vehicle(s): 1984 280GE cabrio; 2011 Ford Expedition
Posts: 112
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
The XD3T is a good engine. I run this in my Land Rover. I had bell housing conversion to the LR 4-speed manual. I am in the slow process of mating it to a ZF out of a range rover. All I have to change is the bell housing,torque converter and the kick down cable over from a 505.
On the P4, there was one for sale in the Daytona Beach, FL area 8 or 9 months ago. I asked him to send me photos but he was leaving for Europe the next day and I never followed up. |
|
| |
|
bbrah
Regular
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Vehicle(s): 460.233 (1980 280GE LWB)
Posts: 68
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
Hmmm, it sounds like even if all 15,000 French P4s showed up in the marketplace there wouldn't be much for us G folks. That's too bad. I was hoping for a situation like the $10K surplus Pinzgauers and $7K Unimogs we're so used to seeing. |
|
| |
|
bram_r
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
Here some US Army Peugeot P4's for sale; in total 3 cars offered.
https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/nl/4x4-terrain-car/03-18099-739-2...
Current bid E 2000,-. I don't see these getting very expensive. Being US Army cars, I'm afraid getting these registered for commercial use may be difficult.
Bram
Edited by bram_r 9/11/2013 3:27 PM
|
|
| |
|
petermerle
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Cape Town ( deep south )
Vehicle(s): W460 *1, W123 *2, W124
Posts: 1315
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
I seem to recall from memory that they do not have front diff lockers
|
|
| |
|
4x4abc
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
Posts: 5917
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
good morning, Peter! |
|
| |
|
petermerle
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Cape Town ( deep south )
Vehicle(s): W460 *1, W123 *2, W124
Posts: 1315
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
How are you? |
|
| |
|
bram_r
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| Re: Peugeot P4 Surplus
Some more Peugeot P4's - G-wagons.
https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/nl/4x4-military-vehicle/03-18654-... |
|
| |
