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Posted 1/9/2007 2:48 AM
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20L external fuel tank carrier?

I would like to add a 20L Scepter Millitary Fuel can to the exterior of the vehicle. Are there any aftermarket carriers that can be bolted on?
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Posted 1/9/2007 8:18 AM
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Re: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Hannibal makes a couple of rack or trailer mounts for jerry jugs

http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/hannibal/index.html

Good luck
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Posted 1/9/2007 8:47 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Or you could buy an original G one: http://www.vtp.no/html/gwagen_deler.htm
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Posted 1/9/2007 9:04 PM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

I just sent an email to Nathan at Pangaea regarding the carriers.

Tjaerand, does the carrier on the German website mount on the rear wheel wheel inside the cabin? When ever I click on the English flag it just goes back to the home page. None of the other links get translated. Any idea on the cost?
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Posted 1/10/2007 3:54 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

That military carrier mounts on the back and outside. Note the spare wheel mount on the right side. It might interfere with the back door on civilian versions so I dont know how well it will work. I'll check the price for you but shipping might be expencive...
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Posted 1/10/2007 10:33 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Speedmaster - 1/9/2007 6:04 PM

I just sent an email to Nathan at Pangaea regarding the carriers.



we have the hannibal jug set up on our roof rack. The trick is to mount it on the (right) side where the G's filler neck is - get a nice size transfer hose - and fill directy from the roof mounted jugs into the tank. We not even take the jugs down to be filled at the gas station.

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Posted 1/10/2007 11:03 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

very tidy rig
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Posted 1/11/2007 2:13 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Karl, that is a really nice setup for camping. I want to stay away from putting on a roof rack. My office garage is only 6'8" and there isn't enough clearance to have a Roof rack mounted. I also wouldn't have enough storage space to store the Rack when not in use. Some sort of rack that could be mounted to the rear bumper would be a perfect solution. The one on the German website looks interesting but as Tjaerand mentioned the Spare tire location may be an issue with non Military G's. There has to be other aftermarket alternatives?
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Posted 1/11/2007 2:49 AM
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Re: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

karl,you have one awesome machine my friend,well done!!
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Posted 1/11/2007 11:16 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Speedmaster, I don't know if maybe you are looking for something like this that I have on my G.
Especially to go and play in sand dunes i.e. to keep the C of G low.
The first pic shows the frame hooked on the gutter, mine are hooked on the roof rack (what you don't want)
but the frame can be altered, the bottom part is simply fastened through the rubber trim with two 10mm bolts.
I can supply all the details if you're interested

amzimmy

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Posted 1/11/2007 4:46 PM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Thanks guys for your nice comments....

amzimmy has a good solution for the additional load.

You will ruin the rear door/hinges quickly if you add more weight to the door.

Yes, a roof rack adds quite a bit of height, I do need some kind of a nice clean custom made outdoor cover for my G-wagen. The California Sun ate already the Hannibal tent cover once......


Karl
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Posted 1/11/2007 4:52 PM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Karl, I want the can setup like yours, all I find is the "single can holder" versus a "double" two can holder. Is yours a double ? If so where did you purchase?
Thanks, Mike
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Posted 1/11/2007 5:27 PM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

DesertStar - 1/11/2007 1:52 PM

Karl, I want the can setup like yours, all I find is the "single can holder" versus a "double" two can holder. Is yours a double ? If so where did you purchase?
Thanks, Mike


Hello Mike,

please contact my personally friend Charles at www.roveraccessories.com and see if he has something in stock for you,

Karl
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Posted 1/11/2007 5:54 PM
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Re: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Hmm - the road authorities around here would probably take a dim view to cans fixed to the side like amzimmy's solution.

I wonder if a solution with a can fastened to a ladder on the rear would work... Probably too narrow for the door to clear the can without the can sticking oout on the side of the car. Perhaps a hinged can carrier fastened to the right side of the rear ladder, that can swing out of the way for opening the rear door...

How much load can the roof rack hold? If me and the missus should sleep in a tent like that, the roof rack itself + two people would mass 250kg+...

Johan-Kr

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Posted 1/11/2007 7:32 PM
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Re: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Well, the roof is rated for 200 kg load, and that's while on the move; dynamically! I suppose you would't let anyone drive while you and your wife sleeps up there, so unless you "sleep" very "dynamically" I wouldn't worry
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Posted 1/12/2007 1:36 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

fernweh - 1/10/2007 10:46 PM

Thanks guys for your nice comments....

amzimmy has a good solution for the additional load.

You will ruin the rear door/hinges quickly if you add more weight to the door.

Yes, a roof rack adds quite a bit of height, I do need some kind of a nice clean custom made outdoor cover for my G-wagen. The California Sun ate already the Hannibal tent cover once......


Karl


Hello Karl, Besides your very nice set-up (I admire people with good coordination!)
I have the "solution" for you! In SA we have this darn "thing" shining 360 of 368 days
eating away everything that it's plastic!
An aluminum cover with hydraulic lifts is the answer!
You will save yourself a lot of "tugging-in, pulling ropes, strapping etc" just unclip
the hinges and it pops open, to close, you pull on a strap, clip the hinges closed and
away you go! And it's fully water-proof!
You need some more info, drop me a PM and I will assist!

amzimmy

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Posted 1/12/2007 2:06 AM
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Re: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Fenalaar - 1/10/2007 11:54 PM

Hmm - the road authorities around here would probably take a dim view to cans fixed to the side like amzimmy's solution.

I wonder if a solution with a can fastened to a ladder on the rear would work... Probably too narrow for the door to clear the can without the can sticking oout on the side of the car. Perhaps a hinged can carrier fastened to the right side of the rear ladder, that can swing out of the way for opening the rear door...

How much load can the roof rack hold? If me and the missus should sleep in a tent like that, the roof rack itself + two people would mass 250kg+...

Johan-Kr


Fenalaar, I have checked with various traffic authorities in SA and Europe,
they have "no objections" solong the full width of the vehicle does not extend
more than 3,6 meters and some to 4 meters, however, some have replied
that one needs to install side mirror extension (as for the caravans).
For the State I don't know, but in view the the "Jeep" has the side mounted
spare wheel on one side and the Jerry-Can on the other I don't see any problems
having the tanks on the side.
I carry water as well as diesel, if you carry only fuel, than you can mount 1 on each side
making the "obstruction" less.

amzimmy

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Posted 1/12/2007 3:21 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

must admit I like the look of the roof mounted Jerry can and spare wheel carrier as fitted to the ambulance G's .
very useful as is the ability to sypion the gas directly into the tank without carrying it about.
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Posted 1/12/2007 6:58 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

Hi Twodogs, the side mounted option gives that possibility as well,
beside the syphoning (standing at ground level) is easy and the refilling
is done as well without removing the canister from the cradle.
An other advantage that the cap does not hook up to branches etc.
what has happened before to me (talking about the metal 20lt J-C with the clip on lid),
suddently being showered with diesel fuel!

amzimmy

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Posted 1/12/2007 10:13 AM
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RE: 20L external fuel tank carrier?

amzimmy - 1/11/2007 10:36 PM


Hello Karl, Besides your very nice set-up (I admire people with good coordination!)

amzimmy :wave:


What do mean with nice set-up?

Compared to your absolute prepared "Out of Africa" set-up you make me look like a guy who just tossed everything into his G-wagen - which I did

The hydraulic alu cover sure looks professional. I would like to cover the whole vehicle, a nice size garage is just a dream away.... it too bad, but my G-wagen slowly grew up and had to stay outside.

I do not think the sided mounted jerry-can would be a problem here in SoCal, you could install some red & orange reflectors on its sides. But with our fuel prices on the pumps, you might want to have the optional gun turret installed to keep the other boys honest........

Karl





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