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| Brent Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SW Colorado USA Vehicle(s): '13 Wolfsburg GTI Posts: 1754  | Re: lol.. trade in Thai - 5/12/2006 7:52 AM Have you looked at the new FJ Cruiser?? That would be my question to you Thai  That thing is much smaller than the G, doesn't have decent rear access for those dealing with car seats and is just plain UGLY  Hurts my eyes to look at them  | |
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| RE: lol.. trade in KERR - 5/12/2006 2:26 PM Yea they are real small, not to mention the fact i have seen 6 of them just today. Thai, every time some one mentiones a new car, suv, or truck you 100000000 % toyota, Dont get me wrong i love them too, and have had 4 yotas down threw the years. So my question is why did you over pay for a G when you could have had a cruizer? It's so strange...on a Toyota forum, i get accused of favoring my G and not showing Toyota any love. On a G forum, i get accused of favoring Toyota and Jeep Rubicon. Strange, isn't it? Maybe i am not blinded by brand loyalty. I appreciate each vehicle for it's purpose. What is the intended purpose of G vs. LX470? If i were mainly on-road driver with a few camping sites to go to, then LX makes more sense. However, for me, i need something with more rock solid off-road capability because i do take my rig off-road. But, i also want some creature comforts. What better vehicle to fill that need than a G?! This is also why i did not get a Jeep Rubicon. Nor a Range Rover. If you were to ask me: G vs. TLC/LX470...then you know what i prefer. However, recently, this is NOT the question being asked. You recently commented on a SUV around $54K...and you prefer Denali. I told you that i prefer TLC or GX470...who wouldn't prefer those SUVs over a Denali?! In this thread, you asked about trading in your '02 G for a truck and you mentioned that your G is now worth $35K or so. So, i mention what is available around that price that is also unique. And since YOU have mentioned how shitty your lemon G is in terms of reliability, i think that Toyota is a good fit for you after your misadventure. Is that so unreasonable for me to come to that conclusion?? I would recommend a 4runner, but i see that you also like something unique and you would not want to go from G to 4runner (major downgrade)...thus, my recommendation to check out the FJC. I hope that you see my points. I am NOT bashing G. Why would i do that?? In fact, i would find it more offensive that you attempted to trade your G for an American truck!  Edited by Thai 5/12/2006 4:09 PM | ||
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| RE: lol.. trade in Also, what is wrong with Toyota/Lexus? They make fine trucks and SUVs. Sure, their trucks are not as good as G, but they are better than the other SUVs offered by MB (ML, GL, R-class, etc.). Let's face it, it's true. Don't hate me because i appreciate other brands. I love my G to death! But i can also appreciate my other cars in my garage too!  Edited by Thai 5/12/2006 4:17 PM | ||
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| Re: lol.. trade in Brent - 5/12/2006 2:03 PM Thai - 5/12/2006 7:52 AM Have you looked at the new FJ Cruiser?? That would be my question to you Thai That thing is much smaller than the G, doesn't have decent rear access for those dealing with car seats and is just plain UGLY Hurts my eyes to look at them :wave:Smaller? I am not too sure about that. It is only about 1.5" shorter than our G. It is wider than our G. It is not as tall. Overall, exterior size is not that much different...it just looks smaller because there is only 2 main doors. Rear room and cargo room are less, i agree with you. But, if you have just one kid, i don't think that it's much of an issue. It does have suicide doors to help with rear access. | ||
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| Re: lol.. trade in no hate here. I was just wondering why you dont have a curizer with lockers, and 33's under it  Main reason we dont have a cruizer is the wife thinks they are ugly and the drink the fuel. | ||
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| Adoni Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4 Posts: 1283 | ||
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| Re: lol.. trade in LOL, what did she say to that last one?  | ||
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| BrentG500 Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, TX, Dallas Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone) Posts: 449  | ||
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| Re: lol.. trade in BrentG500 - 5/12/2006 4:28 PM Kerr, that's hilarious. LOL. What was her response? Regarding the FJ cruiser - it's actually based on a shortened platform of the current Land Cruiser. I like to think of it as a "soft-roader" SUV. A while back, I had the opportunity to rent a 4Runner. The 4Runner's front hood is just cheap. Now the LC's engine is, IMHO, underpowered for such a heavy SUV. Thankfully Jeep and MB are still around. And I've my eye on a certain GC: http://www.aev-conversions.com/Gallery_WK.html FJ is a soft off-roader?? What does Jeep (or MB for that matter) make that is more capable than FJC besides Rubicon (and G)?? Besides our G, what else has MB done for the off-roading market?? Didn't MB threatened to pull the plug on it's ONLY off-roader?? (Note: i would not consider Unimog because it's too extreme.) If you think that 4runner's hood is cheap, then i can't wait for you to sit in a Jeep! In a car wash, your average Jeep would be flooded from the leaking sunroof!  Let's face it...Jeep has nothing over Toyota in terms of quality, reliability, or durability. You're right about TLC's engine being underpowered. No arguments there. Highlander serves it's purpose...a car-based SUV for Camry owners wanting more cargo space (my fiance) but no kids yet to need minivan. RAV4 has grown considerably...to become a big small-ute...it will probably give the M-class a run for the money in regards to interior room and overall packaging. At least, Toyota still makes most of their SUVs with body-on-frame designs, solid rear axles, and low range. Can you say the same about DCX?? Honestly, out of all the stuff DCX has come out with, i ONLY respect two: G500 and Jeep Wrangler/Rubicon. Edited by Thai 5/12/2006 5:52 PM | ||
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| BrentG500 Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, TX, Dallas Vehicle(s): 2004 G500 (gone) Posts: 449 | Re: lol.. trade in Jeep? Flooded sunroof? I've a Wrangler and I know it's cheap. To be frank, it's what I expect from Jeep.  Thankfully, there's GOBS of aftermarket companies who can help the consumer outfit the car with quality parts. Cheapness is not something I've come to expect from Toyota - especially since Toyota has a wonderful reputation for making some really great cars. So yes, I was disappointed when the hood was popping - and again, not because it was popping, but because it was a Toyota and it was popping.  The new GC has IFS, but retains the solid rear axle. I'm not sure about the upcoming Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited and cannot comment on how good they will be until I get a chance to drive either one. The SUVs/trucks in the DCX family that earn my respect are the G500, the Grand Cherokee, the Dodge Ram Quad Cab Hemi and the current Wrangler. The M-class, R-class and GL-class are . I cannot speak regarding the FJC because I've never driven the new one and have no idea how well it performs. However, it looks like an overgrown marshmellow or a fattened 45 year old. | |
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| ewalberg Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany Vehicle(s): 2000 g500 Posts: 1887 | Re: lol.. trade in the one thing that just (almost literally) hits me in the face every time i get in someone elses vehicle is the shear lack of headroom. I always feel claustrophobic in everyone elses car now. I don't like riding in other peoples cars anymore... i feel like i'm stuffed down inside them and then the roof is coming down from above too. I like feeling like i'm sitting on top of a tank with lots of headroom. I'm doomed! I don't know what i'm gonna do if ever there comes a day i need a replacement  | |
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| G4Garret Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oak Ridge - Knoxville - Windrock Tennessee Vehicle(s): 2000 G500, U1100, SLK350, LR 101, WC-63 6x6 Posts: 243  | ||
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| Re: lol.. trade in Come on guys...The FJ isn't that bad..!! It totally hits the market they(Toyota) wanted to secure. In fact I would bet the demographic is much broader than they expected. BUT it is not a G, however for a $ for $ switch with no cash outlay, why not..? Yes, I agree not all the design elements are perfect but what is..? Overall it is a pretty solid ride for $30K. In 4x4 that is..! As for resale and reliability, I am sure it will do well. However that is as long as it is not built in the states. Recently the Toyota Avalon sedan, has had a major article written about it and it's poor build quality and other issues in a AutomotiveNews article. Toyota is not happy and all over it, and I am sure it will be corrected. As for Thai, he is certainly an enthusiast...! Good observations and quite active in forums. We all contribute in our own ways. Keep up the good work. Oh, and kerr, dump the G and I hope you find something you like. I too had an 02' and mine was very good. Hope my next G is too. JMO's.... Thanks Dutch for correcting my logon on issue..! I'm back as you can see | ||
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| ewalberg Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany Vehicle(s): 2000 g500 Posts: 1887 | ||
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