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G1979
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Indialantic, Fl
Vehicle(s): G500 2005
Posts: 185
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus
I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster
I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there.
Any thoughts?
JV
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
G1979 - 1/13/2012 8:09 AM
I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus
I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster
I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there.
Any thoughts?
JV
To change the tire size in the combi instrument you would have to access that menu through the Comand system in your G-wagen.
For the changes in the VG ECU with the Star system please have a look a the screen shot.
Karl
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G1979
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Indialantic, Fl
Vehicle(s): G500 2005
Posts: 185
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
I don't have a comand unit.
I have an after market radio.
JV
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512bbi
Expert
Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
Do I remember right ?
Was it the transfer case module?... and the instrument cluster is only for the speedo adjustment...just had it rechecked when i got the new toy last year....star diagnostic from england....it diagnosed the ML and the savings where worth it than paying the stealeship!
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
yes, its in the transfer case module |
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G1979
Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Indialantic, Fl
Vehicle(s): G500 2005
Posts: 185
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
Karl
There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system
to set tire size.
I look everywhere.
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Adoni
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4
Posts: 1283
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
Stupid question here guys. I'm looking to put a 33.2" tire on my cousins G500. Aren't the listed 8.25 R16c tires the Michelin XZL's they put on Canadian trucks, IFAV's etc? I believe this tire is 34" tall. What would be the outcome of using this larger tire diameter for the input on a 33.2" tire vs using the 31.8" of the 235, 85 16?
The tire we are looking to mount is the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac in 275/70/18.
Edited by Adoni 2/15/2012 1:00 PM
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM
Karl
There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system
to set tire size.
I look everywhere.
JV
JV,
you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system
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512bbi
Expert
Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
G1979 - 1/13/2012 9:09 AM
I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus
I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster
I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there.
Any thoughts?
JV
JV
Should your truck be any different than mine on this?
I do have adjustment on the instrument cluster and set it at 235-85-16 for my 285-65-18 size of tires.
The correction on the speedo was small as it was not that far of any ways since it showed more than real with stock tires before adjusting and real close to real with 285-65-18s
Anyone correct me if this is wrong but if I remember right, the important change in the transfer case module does the trick for ESP and etc and the rest..... and the instrument change just corrects speedo and computer estimate on gas mileage.....I wonder why if any would JVs be different.
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
fernweh - 2/16/2012 12:13 AM
G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM
Karl
There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system
to set tire size.
I look everywhere.
JV
JV,
you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system
Karl
If you are attending the SE G-Treffen, we will have a MB Indie mechanic participating with his STAR unit at EuroTruck. Perhaps he can give some guidance on the newer Comand systems. Just one more reason to attend the Treffen.  |
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
fernweh - 2/15/2012 9:13 PM
G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM
Karl
There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system
to set tire size.
I look everywhere.
JV
JV,
you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system
Karl
Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA!
PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module. |
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autonovice
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: New York City
Vehicle(s): '05 G55K, '92 350GDT
Posts: 684
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
jeremyw - 5/14/2012 7:10 PM
fernweh - 2/15/2012 9:13 PM
G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM
Karl
There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system
to set tire size.
I look everywhere.
JV
JV,
you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system
Karl
Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA!
PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module.
http://www.mercupgrades.com/Mercedes%20COMAND%20Diagnostic%20(Service)%20Mode-article-13.html (copy & paste to the Url bar)
Edited by autonovice 5/15/2012 12:56 AM
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Otiswesty
Administrator
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
jeremyw - 5/14/2012 7:10 PM
Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA!
PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module.
Go to service menu on the Comand, hold down "mute" "1" and "3" simultaneously and you will get into the secret Comand menu
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Edited by otiswesty 5/15/2012 1:31 PM
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?" |
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
jeremyw - 5/15/2012 9:53 PM
Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?"
Anyone?? |
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Otiswesty
Administrator
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
I would assume so, but mine is an '02
We can look at it later. Are you having any specific troubles? |
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
otiswesty - 5/18/2012 1:54 PM
I would assume so, but mine is an '02
We can look at it later. Are you having any specific troubles?
From what I can tell so far, no more ESP engagement in sweepers over 30mph. Phew, that was really crappy headed out to Brown's Camp last weekend.
However still, on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle. I don't expect the Cluster re-coding will help this, but I'd like to make sure my speedo and mpg and everything are as close to spot-on as possible. |
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chris505
Date registered: May 2007
Location: San Francisco
Vehicle(s): '79 280E/'80 280GE/'00 G500
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
jeremyw - 5/18/2012 3:39 PM
... on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle.
Back in 2001 my brother bought a brand new 2002 G500, his first road trip in the vehicle from San Diego to Palm Springs was on a road full of tight corners, same things were happening to that brand new unaltered truck. He soon learned that the brake pedal was unnecessary and just let the vehicle drive itself down the mountain by only steering, by the time he reached Palm Springs the front rotors were warped.
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thebigblue
Date registered: Jan 2012
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| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
jeremyw - 5/18/2012 10:49 PM
jeremyw - 5/15/2012 9:53 PM
Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?"
Anyone??
I looked onto my command in my MY2005 G400 CDi, nothing around tire sizes....  |
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autonovice
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: New York City
Vehicle(s): '05 G55K, '92 350GDT
Posts: 684
| Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved
chris505 - 5/18/2012 5:33 PM
jeremyw - 5/18/2012 3:39 PM
... on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle.
Back in 2001 my brother bought a brand new 2002 G500, his first road trip in the vehicle from San Diego to Palm Springs was on a road full of tight corners, same things were happening to that brand new unaltered truck. He soon learned that the brake pedal was unnecessary and just let the vehicle drive itself down the mountain by only steering, by the time he reached Palm Springs the front rotors were warped.
The experience was scary if you are not
aware of the "feature". I was commanding
Karl's machine. With all the bell, whistle,
and warning from Karl, it did not stick to my
ears until I experienced it and I was only
doing 10mph left turn down a steep hill.
Lesson here is to put in an abs disable switch
and keep a reminder of this feature. It is not
that bad once you master this feature.
All the reasons why I am going back to
the old school machine. I told u to keep
crazy red flyer!
Edited by autonovice 5/20/2012 2:06 PM
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