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Brake upgrade installed.
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Posted 12/24/2008 10:32 PM
dai
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oregon USA
Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F
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Brake upgrade installed.

First of all I have to say thanks to both Amzimmy and Fernweh for their help getting the components. Karl sold me a set of rebuilt calipers from his spares only to find out that they were not right for my machine. Instead of just getting them back he found the correct ones in Germany, and found a very creative way of getting them to me. Thanks Karl and thanks again to the "courier". Michel, I am still unclear about how I have these beautiful rotors but Thanks Again and I'll leave it at that!

I was very interested in improving braking on my '85 300GD. I was looking for pads and more interesting rotors as well as rear shoe compound choices but nothing was coming to the surface. I bought the calipers from Karl because I felt that there was a problem with the stock ones and my thinking was I would install those and rebuild mine and have a pair on the shelf. Then Michel came through with these rotors. They are beautifully made, each set has been checked for correct specs and the detail and materials are remarkable. There are built in wear and temperature indicators and they are slotted. They are a Perfect fit. I mean really perfect.

My brakes were ready for pads but I had and intermittent pull to the left under firm braking. This is never good in a left hand drive environment and things have been snowy, icy and wet. So I was able to find the time to get them on the truck. (The big vineyard is under 2 feet of snow and so is the winery in Mac).

First impressions are a very different and firm brake feel. I am amazed. They need to be broken in with care but it is obvious the rotors are a very big improvement. Powerbrake supplied them with Jurid pads. I decided to go with those. I will let you know how they work as they get used. The calipers cured the pull.

-Dai



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Posted 12/25/2008 2:03 AM
dai
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RE: Brake upgrade installed.

Forgot to give a link: http://www.powerbrake.co.za/tech_info/tech.htm

The articles are well written. I think Michel is really happy with his set on Muffetta (300GD+).

I found bleeding the dry calipers to be tricky. The most difficult is the inboard piston bleeder (lower solo bleeder). I just could not get all of the tiny air bubbles of air out of there (on both sides). This was using a pressure bleeder and my son Boone doing the classic brake pedal routine. I have a rock solid pedal but I will go back and bleed again after some miles.

I put some more miles on it today. Smooth and straight. Excellent feel, I can't wait so really see what they can do.

-Dai



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Posted 12/25/2008 2:47 AM
trc
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Re: Brake upgrade installed.

Gawd. Those discs look beautiful. I think i need to have ones …
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Posted 12/25/2008 3:38 AM
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RE: Brake upgrade installed.

In addition to Dai's picks, here are my rotors that I have fitted some time back. They have done about 100 000 km and are still in perfect condition. I think that, as Dai mentioned, the correct marriage of the rotors and the appropriate pad designed for the application and materials, is the key for long lasting and efficient brakes. Powerbrake does supply for a wide range of cars and racing cars too. They will supply and send their products world-wide.
Dai, to simply answer your question "why?" , well you were in need of new front rotors and what better way to thank you and your family for your warm hospitality!!!!!

amzimmy

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Posted 12/25/2008 3:41 AM
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trc - 12/24/2008 8:47 AM

Gawd. Those discs look beautiful. I think i need to have ones …


Tarmo, these are great rotors, should you want some I will gladly contact the right person and inquire for the best for your G (460 or 463 model?)

Ciao, amzimmy
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Posted 12/25/2008 5:59 AM
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Re: Brake upgrade installed.

Michel, thanks for the offer and i count on you when the right time comes. I think i will take my first axle to pieces in next may or june or so. Will keep in contact. Mine is 463 as you know.



And of course Michel - personal Merry X-mas from our family to yours.

Edited by trc 12/25/2008 6:00 AM
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Posted 12/25/2008 10:20 AM
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Re: Brake upgrade installed.

I tried to order these but as I live in a EEC country we have hilarious custom rates for anything African. Colonialism and imperialism institutionalized!
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Posted 12/25/2008 10:43 AM
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Re: Brake upgrade installed.

Tjærand, it's very easy get someone in Germany or even Switzerland to import them for you and then send them to you. Has been done before!

amzimmy
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Posted 12/25/2008 10:46 AM
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Tarmo, Any time ......... your wish! Have a good jump into the New Year all the best to you and yours too

amzimmy
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Posted 12/25/2008 1:00 PM
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Re: Brake upgrade installed.

There is some great information related to G brakes here: http://www.hehlhans.de/tipp13.htm#63

Thanks Oldtimer.

-Dai
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