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Posted 1/24/2009 2:05 PM
Jonathan Joseph
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Wiring diagram help

Can anyone tell me what it means when a circuit diagram shows something like the picture below. What does the 9 in the upper left corner mean with the arrow below it? Does it indicate that that circuit continues and 9 is the designation of where it goes? There is a #9 "group" on a differant diagram.

I'm having starting problems and trying to chase them down in the rain! I'll probably be askiong some more specific questions soon.

Thanks
Jonathan



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Posted 1/24/2009 2:23 PM
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RE: Wiring diagram help

Jonathan Joseph - 1/24/2009 2:05 PM

Can anyone tell me what it means when a circuit diagram shows something like the picture below. What does the 9 in the upper left corner mean with the arrow below it? Does it indicate that that circuit continues and 9 is the designation of where it goes? There is a #9 "group" on a differant diagram.

I'm having starting problems and trying to chase them down in the rain! I'll probably be askiong some more specific questions soon.

Thanks
Jonathan


You are correct. It goes to wire or socket #9 in an adjacent drawing. "bl" is "blau" = blue colored wire.

The other wire colors are: "sw" = black, "rt" = red and "ge" = yellow.
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Posted 1/24/2009 2:29 PM
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RE: Wiring diagram help

Thanks Dutch
Unfortunately I only have diagrams in PDF form and it's hard to tell what is adjacent. The group "9" doesn't have any indication of the wire coming in though.



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Posted 1/24/2009 2:33 PM
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RE: Wiring diagram help

Jonathan Joseph - 1/24/2009 2:29 PM

Thanks Dutch
Unfortunately I only have diagrams in PDF form and it's hard to tell what is adjacent. The group "9" doesn't have any indication of the wire coming in though.


It won't be a "group". That "9" will be a connection point or an indication of a continuation of that particular wire in another part of the circuit.
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Posted 1/24/2009 3:10 PM
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RE: Wiring diagram help

Jonathan,

300GD?
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Re: Wiring diagram help

Yes, 300GD like mine but some of the wires are longer.

-Dai
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Jonathan Joseph - 1/24/2009 11:29 AM

Thanks Dutch
Unfortunately I only have diagrams in PDF form and it's hard to tell what is adjacent. The group "9" doesn't have any indication of the wire coming in though.


Jonathan,

this kind of wiring diagram is called Current Flow Diagram.......

Please look at the bottom of the diagram and you can see in this case the numbers 100, 101, 102 are the base sections so to speak of and you'll need to find number 9 in the base section (some pages back) - that is where your wire (9) connects to.

Karl
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Harald: yes 300GD. I have the manual purchased from you on disc.

Karl: thank you, but I don't see those numbers unless you mean the page numbers as in the picture below?



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in that picture it is 62, 63, 65....

 

all circuits have circuit numbers. In that example circuit  65 is a brown cable with 1mm² cross section and goes from Ground to the connector of H10.

 

 

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And all Br (Brown) wires are ground wires in these machines are they not?

-Dai
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Re: Wiring diagram help

dai - 1/24/2009 4:36 PM

And all Br (Brown) wires are ground wires in these machines are they not?

-Dai


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Thanks guys, I often wondered how on earth to read these diagrams (only had basic wiring in physics classes at school) now it all makes sense. In essense a good auto electrician should be able to make you up a harness or any part of the harness with these: great for out of production/price range items.
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I think the wiring on the early 460 trucks is pretty easy to sort out. The color coding is straighforward and when you look at the wires and where they go in the truck it becomes very clear how to look at a diagram and look at the physical wire routing. The smaller the fusebox (number of fuses) the easier it is. The later 463 chassis must be a completely different story with the systems and electrical complexity involved.

-Dai
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Re: Wiring diagram help

dai - 1/25/2009 3:26 PM

I think the wiring on the early 460 trucks is pretty easy to sort out. The color coding is straighforward and when you look at the wires and where they go in the truck it becomes very clear how to look at a diagram and look at the physical wire routing. The smaller the fusebox (number of fuses) the easier it is. The later 463 chassis must be a completely different story with the systems and electrical complexity involved.

-Dai


Very true. Unlike my 280GE, you can't get a G500 wiring diagram on single piece of 8.5 x 11 paper - at least not if you want to be able to read it.
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G500 Wiring diagram help

Dutch, Would it be possible to have a copy of the 500 wiring diagram please?
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Roly - 1/25/2009 4:51 PM

Dutch, Would it be possible to have a copy of the 500 wiring diagram please?


You're kidding, of course! It would take a book.
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Re: Wiring diagram help

dai - 1/25/2009 9:26 PM I think the wiring on the early 460 trucks is pretty easy to sort out. The color coding is straighforward and when you look at the wires and where they go in the truck it becomes very clear how to look at a diagram and look at the physical wire routing. The smaller the fusebox (number of fuses) the easier it is. The later 463 chassis must be a completely different story with the systems and electrical complexity involved. -Dai

 

it is... and it's a mess to produce the complete wiring harness. But its my day to day work to connect one end of the vehicle to the other. And thank God it is only piece of insulated copper! 

 

 

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