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G1979 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Indialantic, Fl Vehicle(s): G500 2005 Posts: 185 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there. Any thoughts? JV | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved G1979 - 1/13/2012 8:09 AM I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there. Any thoughts? JV To change the tire size in the combi instrument you would have to access that menu through the Comand system in your G-wagen. For the changes in the VG ECU with the Star system please have a look a the screen shot. Karl Edited by fernweh 1/13/2012 12:41 PM (IMG_3215 (Medium).JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_3215 (Medium).JPG (47KB - 5 downloads) | ||
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G1979 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Indialantic, Fl Vehicle(s): G500 2005 Posts: 185 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved I don't have a comand unit. I have an after market radio. JV | ||
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512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved Do I remember right ? Was it the transfer case module?... and the instrument cluster is only for the speedo adjustment...just had it rechecked when i got the new toy last year....star diagnostic from england....it diagnosed the ML and the savings where worth it than paying the stealeship! Mario | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved yes, its in the transfer case module | ||
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G1979 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Indialantic, Fl Vehicle(s): G500 2005 Posts: 185 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved Karl There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system to set tire size. I look everywhere. JV | ||
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Adoni Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4 Posts: 1283 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved Stupid question here guys. I'm looking to put a 33.2" tire on my cousins G500. Aren't the listed 8.25 R16c tires the Michelin XZL's they put on Canadian trucks, IFAV's etc? I believe this tire is 34" tall. What would be the outcome of using this larger tire diameter for the input on a 33.2" tire vs using the 31.8" of the 235, 85 16? The tire we are looking to mount is the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac in 275/70/18. Edited by Adoni 2/15/2012 1:00 PM | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM Karl There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system to set tire size. I look everywhere. JV JV, you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system Karl | ||
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512bbi Expert Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: North western US and Europe Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430 Posts: 1313 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved G1979 - 1/13/2012 9:09 AM I do have a question for the Star Diagnotic Gurus I can't find tire size change in the instrument cluster I look under 'special equipment' in the variant coding of the Instrument Control Unit and is not there. Any thoughts? JV JV Should your truck be any different than mine on this? I do have adjustment on the instrument cluster and set it at 235-85-16 for my 285-65-18 size of tires. The correction on the speedo was small as it was not that far of any ways since it showed more than real with stock tires before adjusting and real close to real with 285-65-18s Anyone correct me if this is wrong but if I remember right, the important change in the transfer case module does the trick for ESP and etc and the rest..... and the instrument change just corrects speedo and computer estimate on gas mileage.....I wonder why if any would JVs be different. Mario | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved fernweh - 2/16/2012 12:13 AM G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM Karl There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system to set tire size. I look everywhere. JV JV, you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system Karl If you are attending the SE G-Treffen, we will have a MB Indie mechanic participating with his STAR unit at EuroTruck. Perhaps he can give some guidance on the newer Comand systems. Just one more reason to attend the Treffen. | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved fernweh - 2/15/2012 9:13 PM G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM Karl There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system to set tire size. I look everywhere. JV JV, you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system Karl Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA! PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module. | ||
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autonovice Elite Veteran Date registered: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Vehicle(s): '05 G55K, '92 350GDT Posts: 684 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved jeremyw - 5/14/2012 7:10 PM fernweh - 2/15/2012 9:13 PM G1979 - 2/15/2012 5:57 AM Karl There is no calibration on the MY2008 comand system to set tire size. I look everywhere. JV JV, you have to access the "secret" menu in the Comand system to do that. Sorry, but I do not have any experience with the late type Comand system Karl Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA! PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module. http://www.mercupgrades.com/Mercedes%20COMAND%20Diagnostic%20(Service)%20Mode-article-13.html (copy & paste to the Url bar) Edited by autonovice 5/15/2012 12:56 AM | ||
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Otiswesty Administrator Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213 Posts: 3008 | RE: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved jeremyw - 5/14/2012 7:10 PM Ok, what "secret" menu is this? On my '03 G500, I go into the Instrument Cluster settings via the steering wheel, but I don't see anything about tire sizing. I only see things like Speed or Outside Temp, English or Deustch, 12hr or 24hr, etc. Can someone enlighten me? TIA! PS--I have changed the tires/axle in the Transfer Case Module. Go to service menu on the Comand, hold down "mute" "1" and "3" simultaneously and you will get into the secret Comand menu E Edited by otiswesty 5/15/2012 1:31 PM | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?" | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved jeremyw - 5/15/2012 9:53 PM Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?" Anyone?? | ||
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Otiswesty Administrator Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213 Posts: 3008 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved I would assume so, but mine is an '02 We can look at it later. Are you having any specific troubles? | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved otiswesty - 5/18/2012 1:54 PM I would assume so, but mine is an '02 We can look at it later. Are you having any specific troubles? From what I can tell so far, no more ESP engagement in sweepers over 30mph. Phew, that was really crappy headed out to Brown's Camp last weekend. However still, on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle. I don't expect the Cluster re-coding will help this, but I'd like to make sure my speedo and mpg and everything are as close to spot-on as possible. | ||
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chris505 Date registered: May 2007 Location: San Francisco Vehicle(s): '79 280E/'80 280GE/'00 G500 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved jeremyw - 5/18/2012 3:39 PM ... on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle. Back in 2001 my brother bought a brand new 2002 G500, his first road trip in the vehicle from San Diego to Palm Springs was on a road full of tight corners, same things were happening to that brand new unaltered truck. He soon learned that the brake pedal was unnecessary and just let the vehicle drive itself down the mountain by only steering, by the time he reached Palm Springs the front rotors were warped. | ||
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thebigblue Date registered: Jan 2012 Location: Vehicle(s): | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved jeremyw - 5/18/2012 10:49 PM jeremyw - 5/15/2012 9:53 PM Ok, got into secret menu, but see nothing about tire size. Does my '03 not have this option to change in the "cluster?" Anyone?? I looked onto my command in my MY2005 G400 CDi, nothing around tire sizes.... | ||
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autonovice Elite Veteran Date registered: Dec 2006 Location: New York City Vehicle(s): '05 G55K, '92 350GDT Posts: 684 | Re: 463 with larger tires - ESP problems solved chris505 - 5/18/2012 5:33 PM jeremyw - 5/18/2012 3:39 PM ... on very tight "corkscrews" down hill to right or left (read; weight transfer to front) even at 19mph, the truck gets pissed and throws the ESP Bermuda Triangle. Back in 2001 my brother bought a brand new 2002 G500, his first road trip in the vehicle from San Diego to Palm Springs was on a road full of tight corners, same things were happening to that brand new unaltered truck. He soon learned that the brake pedal was unnecessary and just let the vehicle drive itself down the mountain by only steering, by the time he reached Palm Springs the front rotors were warped. The experience was scary if you are not aware of the "feature". I was commanding Karl's machine. With all the bell, whistle, and warning from Karl, it did not stick to my ears until I experienced it and I was only doing 10mph left turn down a steep hill. Lesson here is to put in an abs disable switch and keep a reminder of this feature. It is not that bad once you master this feature. All the reasons why I am going back to the old school machine. I told u to keep crazy red flyer! Edited by autonovice 5/20/2012 2:06 PM | ||
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