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Date registered: Dec 1899
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| '91 280GEL
Hello,
I'm new to this forum and have a question about a 91 280GEL,auto, AMG trim, 100000Km.
The asking price is Can$28000.
It seems the vehicle has been imported from Japan, excelent condition.
I have the following questions:
What gas mileage can I expect?
Any known issues with these vehicles?
What's the value?
Any help with these questions is greatly appreciated
Thanks,
Otto
ps: my toy is a '83 380sl (sweeeet) |
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gwagen460swb
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Vehicle(s): 280GE SWB, Toyota Highlander, BMW530i, RR HSE
Posts: 513
| Re: '91 280GEL
Are you located in Canada too?--Or what I am trying to say is that I hope you are not in the U.S. trying to bring that vehicle over from Canada. The reason is that you would be paying more than your CAN$28,000. |
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| RE: '91 280GEL
I'm living in Princeton, British Columbia, Canada. (eh!) |
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gwagen460swb
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Vehicle(s): 280GE SWB, Toyota Highlander, BMW530i, RR HSE
Posts: 513
| Re: '91 280GEL
You will need to include that location in your profile in case you have future questions about your G. That way a fellow Canadian can better assist you with your needs. If I recall correctly, there is someone in your area with the same first name as you who is a G enthusiast. His contact information can be found on clubgwagen.com.
Do you have any pictures? CAN$28,000 sounds pretty reasonable for a 1991 AMG G. I think there was a 1990 or 1991 LWB G that recently sold on eBay for approx US$25000. And this was not an AMG. |
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gwagen460swb
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Vehicle(s): 280GE SWB, Toyota Highlander, BMW530i, RR HSE
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| Re: '91 280GEL
Nevermind about the first name thing. I was thinking of Roland Otterstein. He is from Vancouver area.
AMG 280GEL? I did not think AMG badged (or designated) their model numbers like that. Their numbers are usually G36, G55, etc. It sounds like this might be a regular 280GEL with AMG accessories (i.e. wheels, badges, spare tire cover, etc.), but not an AMG. We will definitely need to see pictures. |
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79percent
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Remscheid / Germany
Vehicle(s): 300 GE
Posts: 537
| RE: '91 280GEL
Hello OWC are you shure about a 1991 280GEL? To my knowledge the 280 GE wasn't built at that time! RGDS Klaus |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
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| RE: '91 280GEL
79percent - 9/5/2006 2:03 AM
Hello OWC are you shure about a 1991 280GEL? To my knowledge the 280 GE wasn't built at that time! RGDS Klaus
The "Legend" book shows the LWB 280GE (460.233) was built through 1991. Also, a vehicle made in a given year but registered later in another country will often be dated by the later registration. Europa International was registering early 1999 G500's as "2000 G500"; and that happened frequently throughout the years of production. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
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Posts: 9963
| Re: '91 280GEL
gwagen460swb - 9/4/2006 10:13 PM
Nevermind about the first name thing. I was thinking of Roland Otterstein. He is from Vancouver area.
AMG 280GEL? I did not think AMG badged (or designated) their model numbers like that. Their numbers are usually G36, G55, etc. It sounds like this might be a regular 280GEL with AMG accessories (i.e. wheels, badges, spare tire cover, etc.), but not an AMG. We will definitely need to see pictures.
AMG modified early G's without changing the model designation. |
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Luky
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Bratislava, Slovakia, EU
Vehicle(s): 300GE LWB auto, E320CDI 4M, VW Polo Classic 1.6
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| Re: '91 280GEL
I know there were some early 90s 230 GEs, but never heard about such 280.
One AMG 280 GEL is right now for sale on mobile.de.
http://home.mobile.de/SIDiGnvmoOv0tuLf3EocrwdWw-t-vaNexlCpHpIsAsCsK...
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elevatorbernie
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE
Posts: 1347
| RE: '91 280GEL
28,000$ CDN seems ok. I recently , purchased a 1990 289 GE, for 25,000$ CDN. Although I had to make some repairs I'm happy, my truck is soild with no rust. I think I've seen pictures of the truck in question, looks like 280GE with AMG badging. www.risingsunimports.com. |
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elevatorbernie
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE
Posts: 1347
| RE: '91 280GEL
Sorry, .ca not .com www,risingsunimports.ca , nice looking truck there, click the for sale heading, not sure if it's the one in question, but it shows better than mine. |
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Braingears
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Date registered: Apr 2006
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| AMG G-Wagons
As you can tell from the PDF that I have attached from EPC, there were numerous badged AMG G-Wagons
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Date registered: Dec 1899
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| RE: '91 280GEL
Thanks for the info so far, but can anyone tell me about the mileage of this vehicle? It'll be my daily driver, is it going to leave me broke??
Thanks,
Otto |
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Luky
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Bratislava, Slovakia, EU
Vehicle(s): 300GE LWB auto, E320CDI 4M, VW Polo Classic 1.6
Posts: 1062
| Re: '91 280GEL
I put the price(still without tax) into a currency converter, and the result was more than 20000 Euro. That is about double of the price of such car in Europe. Is it so expensive to make it road legal in Canada or what is the reason of such a high price? |
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elevatorbernie
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE
Posts: 1347
| RE: '91 280GEL
My G gets about the same mileage as my full size dodge ramcharger 5.2 L did. The G is really heavy, geared like a tractor, areodynamic like a snow plow, and that motor was designed when gas was cheap. So if you plan on driving alot of freeway be prepared for 10-15 mpg.. (That being imperial gallons not US). Also don't expect any kind of performance like a V8 motor would, think VW bus = gutless up hill. |
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elevatorbernie
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE
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| Re: '91 280GEL
Luky, any auto 15yrs old or older can be imported into Canada with just an inspection. My G is the way it was from the factory, road legal. The price of this G is high because it is low km and probally no rust also it had to cross the Pacific on a ship. My 1990 280 GE was 25,000 cdn. and worth every penny. Not one spot of rust 55,000km (not even wear on the carpet) The truck most likely never left Tokyo. Japan has the best used cars in the world. It costs so much to have a car there that they don't drive much and really take care of them. The government in Japan highly regulates cars and inpections. After a few years it's cheaper to buy a new car then keep the old one licensed. Their loss is our gain here Canada! |
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gwagen460swb
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Vehicle(s): 280GE SWB, Toyota Highlander, BMW530i, RR HSE
Posts: 513
| Re: '91 280GEL
I went to the risingsunimports.ca site and saw the G you are interested in. It looks nice and clean. Is the G already in BC? If so, I recommend seeing it in person. Interesting buttons near the armrests of the seats.
Does that CAN$28,000 include the shipping? How much is GST on a vehicle like that these days in BC? |
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| RE: '91 280GEL
Hi,
the price is the landed cost plus 7% tax.
That gas mileage is a killer!!!!!
Maybe I'll have to look at the Toyota VX they have. Straight six td, electric diff locks @ both ends, 118000km, $21000. Not a MB, but probably a good vehicle. Does anyone know how they compare (asde from the VX being right hand drive)?
Tx,
Otto |
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elevatorbernie
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Date registered: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE
Posts: 1347
| RE: '91 280GEL
Otto ,the toyota is built like a tin can and the G is like a bank vault! Your comparing apples to oranges with gas and diesel. The toy with it's diesel engine would win when it comes to mileage. Off road performance the G would win hands down. That's why militaries around the world use them. However if you still go with the diesel toy beaware some parts may be not available in Canada. Even through the dealerships. Some models were sold here in 80's with diesels, but they might be different motors. I know a guy that was having hard time to get an oil filter for his imported toyota; I'm not sure of year though. Also some toys were 24volts. I think pre 1988. Imagine trying to find a 24v starter, alt. or even a headlamp bulb. G parts are available from many sources. Even MB will help. Though they not cheap and you have to wait some times. |
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Chris
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Date registered: Sep 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Vehicle(s): 2012 G550, 2012 GL350 BT
Posts: 241
| Re: '91 280GEL
elevatorbernie - 9/6/2006 2:46 AM
Luky, any auto 15yrs old or older can be imported into Canada with just an inspection. My G is the way it was from the factory, road legal. The price of this G is high because it is low km and probally no rust also it had to cross the Pacific on a ship. My 1990 280 GE was 25,000 cdn. and worth every penny. Not one spot of rust 55,000km (not even wear on the carpet) The truck most likely never left Tokyo. Japan has the best used cars in the world. It costs so much to have a car there that they don't drive much and really take care of them. The government in Japan highly regulates cars and inpections. After a few years it's cheaper to buy a new car then keep the old one licensed. Their loss is our gain here Canada!
I am new here and I do not mean to hijack another thread, but I am interested in your experience in the importing from japan. Which importer did you use terra2 or j-spec? I am considering doing this as well. |
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