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DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | Helphos suction windscreen spotlight I just won a bid on Ebay for the Helphos spotlight which I want to mount on my G. I have obtained mounting instructions by which I have a question for you chemists here. When mounting the suction rubber piece, it calls for a thin layer of GLYCERINE around the rubber. you then aplly with pressure to windscreen and evacuate with levers and creat a vaccuum. My question is: What is the purpose of GLYCERINE and can it be bought "over the counter" ? If not is there a substitute ? My assumption is that it keeps the rubber pliable for the contracting windshield in temperature changes. Any help or suggestions on mounting is appreciated. Mike Edited by DesertStar 1/27/2007 11:38 PM (helphos.jpg) Attachments ---------------- helphos.jpg (23KB - 4 downloads) | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight I'll wager that it is serving a sealant. Soapy water, Vasalene should work just as well. | ||
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martin Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Del Mar, CA Isles of Scilly, UK Vehicle(s): 99 G500 95 E300D 95 R1100GS 06 K1200R Posts: 297 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Cool find, Mike. Are you moonlighting as a pizza delivery guy? Martin | ||
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DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Thanks Alan...Martin with as slow as the G is, the spotlight will help me find addresses faster that way I dont have to buy back so many pizzas that go past the 30 minute guarantee. Mike | ||
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dai Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon USA Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F Posts: 2110 | Re: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight You should be able to find glycerine at a local pharmacy. Rubber grease by Girling might do the job. Is that the only Helphos unit in the US? Well done! -Dai | ||
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DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Thanks Dai, I will try the drug store, it just seemed like something that would have been banned in the USA by the FDA or ATF. I have seen a couple on US wagens that were listed on Ebay last year, thats what sparked my interest along with the listing in the EPC. | ||
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martin Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Del Mar, CA Isles of Scilly, UK Vehicle(s): 99 G500 95 E300D 95 R1100GS 06 K1200R Posts: 297 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Just kidding about pizza delivery Mike ... Do you have a front view shot of the light? Also what wattage bulb can you put in there? It seems close to the windshield and the w/s has a piece of plastic between the two layers of glass. | ||
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Bill K Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Heres one (BD254ab.jpg) Attachments ---------------- BD254ab.jpg (19KB - 3 downloads) | ||
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DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight The picture I found on the "net". Here is an ebay listing that better describes and you can probably figure out how it works by looking. The bulb is a 12v 31w...which I have a feeling I will have a hard time finding. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&ssp... The spotlight that came on the G-wagen was a Hella which was part number A0008200873 and i think looked the attached photo here....it works the same way. I hope to give the G that "rallye" feel.....yeah right. Mike (hella rally lamp grey.jpg) Attachments ---------------- hella rally lamp grey.jpg (31KB - 4 downloads) | ||
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Bill K Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Hi Mike, good find. I am sure you will have some fun with that. Attached is a site you can buy the bulb , page down a little. I am sure you will find others out there possibly cheaper http://www.autochron.co.uk/lights.shtml Have a goodin | ||
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roughneck Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK, Germany & USA Vehicle(s): 270 cdi.300 GD 300 GE.lwb 300 GE.swb. Disco 2 Posts: 4398 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Jelly / Jello. Jelly beans, Jelly babies, washing up liquid and lip stick are all made from Glycerine which is an animal by product, I should smear a thin film of washing up liquid, it is to aid the initial seal, Vaseline is petroleum based and may degrade the rubber. | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight dai - 1/27/2007 10:51 PM You should be able to find glycerine at a local pharmacy. Rubber grease by Girling might do the job. Is that the only Helphos unit in the US? Well done! -Dai Mike, I think also 'Parker O-Ring' lube would be appropriate - a standard of the industry.. Karl | ||
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roughneck Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK, Germany & USA Vehicle(s): 270 cdi.300 GD 300 GE.lwb 300 GE.swb. Disco 2 Posts: 4398 | Re: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight fernweh - 1/28/2007 6:17 PM dai - 1/27/2007 10:51 PM You should be able to find glycerine at a local pharmacy. Rubber grease by Girling might do the job. Is that the only Helphos unit in the US? Well done! -Dai Mike, I think also 'Parker O-Ring' lube would be appropriate - a standard of the industry.. Karl Is not O ring lube a silicone lubricant and therefore may be counter productive in this case ? | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight roughneck - 1/28/2007 10:29 AM fernweh - 1/28/2007 6:17 PM dai - 1/27/2007 10:51 PM You should be able to find glycerine at a local pharmacy. Rubber grease by Girling might do the job. Is that the only Helphos unit in the US? Well done! -Dai Mike, I think also 'Parker O-Ring' lube would be appropriate - a standard of the industry.. Karl Is not O ring lube a silicone lubricant and therefore may be counter productive in this case ? I thought 'Helphos' and a '.........' had the same idea - looking for a tight seal | ||
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DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Looks like I have my work cut out for me to see which lube/soap is best....for all I know I may have other problems to tend to on the light or a bad rubber and end up using two sided tape. I will wait till I get it from the UK. Thanks for your ideas and suggestions.. Mike | ||
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Mick Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight thats crazy! my father had exactly this light allready 1969 in his /8 - seems classics never die. they don`t even changed minor things on the design - lol, real fun to see it again after 38 years. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Glycerin aka Glycerol I'm sure that's recommended because it's infinitely soluble in water, and will clean off the glass very easily. I sure wouldn't use silicone grease on my windshield! | ||
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Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Saw this this morning: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250080215281&ssP... | ||
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amzimmy Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: South Africa/Italy Vehicle(s): GD300 1981, Alfa GT 3,2 V6, Alfa Brera Q4 3,2 V6. Posts: 850 | RE: Helphos suction windscreen spotlight Desertstar, you can try "KY-Jelly"..............good for some other "uses" as well!?! amzimmy Edited by amzimmy 2/2/2007 10:31 AM | ||
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