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Posted 2/12/2007 12:29 AM
martin
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paint codes and undercoating questions

Hello all,

Searched here and the MB forum, but still need specifics.

I getting ready to do some painting and need help with the paint codes. From my VIN, the paint code is 3002 (some sort of red). I can mix Dupont and PPG paints at work since I have their respective mixing stuff on site. I can get Glasurit mixed for me by one of my suppliers, but I will need their specific codes to do so. My question is, where can I get either a match of the 3002 code or the specific base color ratios?

Also, where can I source a similar undercoating in the US to what MB used?

Many thanks.
Martin



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Posted 2/12/2007 1:21 AM
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RE: paint codes and undercoating questions

Hi Martin, I just went down to the local wholesale paint supplier and he was able to mix up a batch of "Carmine Red" paint code 3002 (same as mine) and he used Spies Hecker paint. the actual paint code is RAL3002 Karminrot.
If you need some codes for cross reference tell your guy the Spies hecker code is: 3002-GL Karminrot.
Also keep in mind is it is for touchup purpose and not a complete repaint you may want to bring you truck down so they can "fine tune" the color as the pigments in red seem to fade more than other colors.
And as usual some helpful links:
http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/460color.html

http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk/ral.html

http://www.ral.de/de/ral_farben/farbkarten/ral_classic.php

http://www.automedia.com/channel/restoration/Paint/Body

chassis paint...I havent a clue.

Mike
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Posted 2/12/2007 3:28 AM
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Re: paint codes and undercoating questions

Hi Martin,

I'd stick with the Spies-Hecker instead of PPG or Dupont; my experience is that PPG and Dupont doesn't match factory colors as well even when the codes and blend formulae are correctly used...

Phil
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Spies-Hecker is part of Dupont.
Mike
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Posted 2/15/2007 9:40 PM
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RE: paint codes and undercoating questions

Thanks for the info Mike.

As you have probably figured out from one of my other posts, it's going to be quite awhile until I get to the color part of the restoration. I'm in the "primering replacement and media blasted body panels" phase. In a couple weeks, the body shell comes off the chassis so that I can get to some hard to reach areas. That will also give me a chance to do a once over on a bare chassis. Oh what fun!

-Martin
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Posted 2/16/2007 5:27 AM
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RE: paint codes and undercoating questions

Da die Frage schon mehrfach auftauchte, hier eine Zusammenfassung der Farbnummern aus dem "viermalvier"-Forum:

Farbton Stahlfelgen : MB brilliantsilber-metallic Nr. 744

Farbton Stoßstangen, Kühlergrill, Luftfiltergehäuse, Rahmen, Innenaussteattung etc: MB tiefdunkelgrau Nr. 7167

Beim 460 ab ca. 86 mit der etwas helleren Variante an Sitzgestellen, Rückbank, Armaturenbrett etc. heißt der Farbton MB anthrazitgrau matt 7731.


Es handelt sich nicht um RAL-Farbtöne

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