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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223  | 4 Speed vs 5 Speed Maual Transmission With M110 Engine Are the 4 and 5 speed manual transmissions completely interchangeable Indiana Drew | |
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| 79percent Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Remscheid / Germany Vehicle(s): 300 GE Posts: 537  | RE: 4 Speed vs 5 Speed Maual Transmission With M110 Engine Indiana Drew - 6/4/2007 3:21 PM Are the 4 and 5 speed manual transmissions completely interchangeable Indiana Drew the speed is longer, so you have to have a shorter transmisson shaft. In addition you will need a 5 speed shifter unit, because its differnt to the 4 speed one.
RGDS Klaus
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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223 | ||
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| Brent Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SW Colorado USA Vehicle(s): '13 Wolfsburg GTI Posts: 1754  | ||
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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223 | ||
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| w.james Veteran Date registered: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Vehicle(s): 84 280 GE 617A 5sp getrag Posts: 239  | ||
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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223 | ||
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| 4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500  | ||
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| Brent Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SW Colorado USA Vehicle(s): '13 Wolfsburg GTI Posts: 1754 | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: 4 Speed vs 5 Speed Maual Transmission With M110 Engine Indiana Drew - 6/4/2007 7:21 AM Are the 4 and 5 speed manual transmissions completely interchangeable Indiana Drew Be careful. A lot of what's being said here (about ease of swapping 4 speed for 5 speed) applies to only the 4 spd vs the Getrag 5 speed. Per Harald's link, there are iron box 5 speeds with separate bell housings for the G. These transmissions can be bolted to the bell housing you currently have on your M110, and used with the same shifter, linkage, clutch slave, etc that's in the truck now. The numbers on the shift knob won't be in the right place, but other than that, and the center drive shaft length, the G-specific iron box 5 speeds are a bolt-up from the four speed arangement. A swap that I've done in a weekend using non-g verstions of the trans tha trequired more mods than would have been necessary if I had the g version of the box. Whether or not the transmission might be enjoyable to drive, or accomplish some other goal you might have for the project, I won't go into since you didn't ask about or elaborate on those subjects. -Dave G. | |
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| dai Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon USA Vehicle(s): 300GD 300TD BMW R100RS Landini 80F Posts: 2110 | ||
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| AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | ||
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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223 | RE: 4 Speed vs 5 Speed Maual Transmission With M110 Engine hipine - 6/5/2007 2:25 PM Indiana Drew - 6/4/2007 7:21 AM Are the 4 and 5 speed manual transmissions completely interchangeable Indiana Drew Whether or not the transmission might be enjoyable to drive, or accomplish some other goal you might have for the project, I won't go into since you didn't ask about or elaborate on those subjects. -Dave G. Thanks for all the thoughtful information, I really didn't have any particular expectation for the level of detail that might be offered here. It sounds as though the 4 to 5 or 5 to 4 can be done. It does though seem that the utility of one over the other is quite subjective. In short it sounds like it is harder than changing socks, but easier than knitting them ... Indiana Drew | |
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| 4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | ||
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| Indiana Drew Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Tx Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 LWB, 1980 280GE SWB (Sold), S500 Posts: 2223 | Re: 4 Speed vs 5 Speed Maual Transmission With M110 Engine 4x4abc - 6/6/2007 2:27 AM Alan, you are soooo right! Its a very fine balance between all components involved. Replacing just one of the components might give you exactly what you aimed for - and then you discover all the things that are not so good. Sounds like a case of being careful what you pray for as you just might get it ... | |
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, or really difficult to install 
in a 280GE?
