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461 wheel track advice please
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Posted 6/11/2007 3:59 AM
Boy G
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461 wheel track advice please

I am heading out again - this time with a trailer into the thick sand of Botswana - 1 st week of July.

I have standard 6J steel rims with 235 85 16's on the G and I want to convert my trailer to run in the same track as the G.

How wide apart do I make the mounting flanges of the trailer hubs as I also want the trailer to run on same G rims and tyres?

Harald, anyone else, got a sketch showing where the ET is measured to and from?

What is the G's track width - looks about 1430mm?

Thanks
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Posted 6/11/2007 5:59 AM
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RE: 461 wheel track advice please

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Posted 6/11/2007 6:13 AM
Boy G
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

Danke Klaus,

is the 463 the same as 461? Steel wheels ET same as Alloys?

I have measured with a tape about 1430mm. Definitely not 1475.

Gruesse.
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Posted 6/11/2007 7:49 AM
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

1425 and 1700 on the 461 - at least according to the engineering specs - but I guess that can change with the type of wheels you have.
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Posted 6/11/2007 9:16 AM
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

Andrew,

track width is 1425 mm - measured at the wheel centers with steel wheels and 205 R 16
Steel wheel ET is 63 mm - alloy wheel ET depends on which one: http://www.rubicon-trail.com/G-Class/wheels/start.html
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Posted 6/11/2007 11:41 AM
Boy G
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

Harald Thanks,

Do I understand correctly then that the hubs are 1425 + 63 + 63 apart?
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Posted 6/11/2007 12:34 PM
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

What are you going to use as wheel hubs ? G pattern is not very common
Peter
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Posted 6/11/2007 12:45 PM
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

Andrew,

right, hub face/drum face to hub face/drum face are 1425 + 63 + 63 = 1551 mm apart
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Posted 6/11/2007 12:50 PM
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

I had to get adapers/spacers custom made to put Mercedes wheels on my trailer. There is a big advantage to having the same tracking width, especially in sand. It's also nice to have the same wheel/tire on the trailer and the G as well. I carry two identical spares, which will work on the truck and the trailer. I have used both on some trips, so it's a definite advantage.



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Posted 6/12/2007 1:16 AM
Boy G
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Re: 461 wheel track advice please

petermerle - 6/10/2007 7:34 PM

What are you going to use as wheel hubs ? G pattern is not very common
Peter


Peter, I will make them, either from scratch where I can include the centre spigot, or from blanks availlable from Alko for about R250 ($18). I have the equipment (lathes, mills, dividing heads etc).

Will check that 1551 distance as soon as the sun comes up. Thanks guys. I'll keep you posted.
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