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Posted 1/4/2007 2:00 AM
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Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

Hey all;

I've seen a lot of talk on the boards about how to mount these jacks on the outside of the truck; whether by the spare tire mount, on an ARB, on a roof rack, etc. I want to use this as my primary jack, and would need to keep it in the truck. Anyone have any slick mounting ideas/pictures? Anything beyond just throwing it under the bench seats, I suppose?

cheers.

P
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Posted 1/4/2007 2:41 AM
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

I always considered the Hi-Lift to be a bit awkward as an "everyday" jack for around the town use as you have to jack the vehicle up pretty high. The good old bottle jacks under the axle with a couple of pumps get the tire up in the air and,I feel, a bit more secure. For off-roading, I have used the jack to help get unstuck in cruddy conditions and have even used it as a winch. Enough of my opinion.

I too am considering mounting my Hi-Lift for "secondary" purposes and have contemplated building a wooden box behind the rear seat with a compartment for the jack and little compartments or dividers to store oil,antifreeze,power steering fluid,belts and hoses. Something like a coffin where you could insulate the inside from the jack rattling etc.
You could be real creative and for the lid build another box that hinges over your "jack stowage" and install some speakers/woofers...if that is your thing.
Behind the seat should be ok so you could still access by folding seats forward....if the back is full of camping gear or whatever.
Being you have a W463 I dont know how much room you have under the rear seat where maybe something there could be an option and allows easy access.

Also, a google search as below may churn an idea or two:
http://images.google.com/images?q=hi-lift+jack+mount&ndsp=20&svnum=...

Those are my casual thoughts at this moment.
Mike

Edited by DesertStar 1/4/2007 2:44 AM
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Posted 1/4/2007 3:39 AM
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

theres a lot to be said for storing it below the bench seat as it is locked in place there fore safe ,
I store my ground anchor kit there well out of the way and hopefully never used
Twodogs





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Posted 1/4/2007 11:17 AM
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

Do you see the rear plate of the front seat base as it's visible in the "flipped forward" position on TwoDogs picture?  I was thinking of welding two bolts to that plate and mounting the hi-lift there.  That is until I built a drawer system for the rear loadspace that now precludes that mounting (goes right up to the back seat).  So mine is located under the rear seat, transverse across the truck.  Though it's not perfect because the base digs into the floor mat a little when the seat is closed.  I want to make a better base plate mounting so I can easily remove the base plate (or have a larger one) and store it off the jack to make the jack store more compactly.

I agree that the hilift shouldn't be the only jack, but right now it is for me.

Love that anchor, TwoDogs!!!  A true Anchor in more ways than one.  Costs you about 2 mpg and 10 kph of top speed though I bet! 

-Dave G.

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Posted 1/4/2007 12:59 PM
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

TWODOGS - 1/4/2007 8:39 AM

theres a lot to be said for storing it below the bench seat as it is locked in place there fore safe ,
I store my ground anchor kit there well out of the way and hopefully never used
Twodogs



Love that ground anchor, You really have to nail things down when you park around your way don't you.
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

I wouldn't use the Hi Lift for changing wheels, if that's what you mean by primary. The bottle jack is much better for that.
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

TWODOGS - 1/4/2007 8:39 AM

theres a lot to be said for storing it below the bench seat as it is locked in place there fore safe ,
I store my ground anchor kit there well out of the way and hopefully never used
Twodogs



Very nice,I see military neatness here.

Dave P
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Posted 1/4/2007 4:34 PM
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

Does the ground anchor rattle around under there much?

I would also stow a high-lift under the rear seat, just bolted in with a couple of bolts through the floor and wing-nuts.
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Posted 1/4/2007 9:35 PM
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

I am with DesertStar - the Hi-Lift is the least desirable jack on the planet. It is extremely dangerous and very instable when changing tires.
Granted, you can use it for a couple of other tasks - but its not even good at doing those.
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

Try pulling out those anchor spikes with a bottle jack
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Posted 1/5/2007 2:06 AM
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

interesting, I don't trust that bottle jack whatsoever. I supposed the hi lift was the one to go with for that sort of thing.

maybe i'll reconsider now, after all those votes from the heavyweights.

under the rear seats would be no good, as i'm trying to figure out how to make one of these:



the pic is from the ORC site, and it's supposedly a "custom" job, but it has to be simply a modified version of another box.

Edited by xcxre9 1/5/2007 2:07 AM
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

elevatorbernie - 1/5/2007 5:45 AM

Try pulling out those anchor spikes with a bottle jack :biggrin:


That's why you carry one extra spike.

Dave P
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Re: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

4x4abc - 1/4/2007 9:35 PM

I am with DesertStar - the Hi-Lift is the least desirable jack on the planet. It is extremely dangerous and very instable when changing tires.
Granted, you can use it for a couple of other tasks - but its not even good at doing those.


Any pics/links of this desertstar jack. google search match only some audio sites.
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

good point Dave have you been counting the pins/spikes , nine is the way as stated the the combat engineer handbook .
the kit under the seat dont move at all when the seat is down its locked in place .
I also carry a tirfor hand winch in a box in the rear pulls from any angle and never lets you down .
Twodogs




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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

He was referring to my post earlier...as my name is DesertStar, and 4x4ABC was saying he agreed with some of what I said. There is no "desertstar jack". But there is a "DesertStar dont know Jack" so I have been told...just kidding.
Anyway, I did find this in the web, which might give you an idea.
http://www.jeeptech.com/body/him.html

Also realize the jack is long and a bit awkward so sacrifices may have to be made when it comes to where you want it mounted. Maybe make a "canvas sheath" for it and secure it to the floor with the securing loops if you G has them.

Lastly, if your G has the rear jump seats, maybe pull one of them out and utilize the existing bolt holes for mounting on the side ?


Mike
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

sorry about hi-jacking the post to try to put it back on track the problem is the hi-lift jack is a odd shaped bit of kit and any internal storage will make it hard to get at in a hurry , but its not something you would want boncing around off road .
you could mount it on the back of the rear seat back rest but you will lose a lot of storage space .
without fabricating and fitting a rear load gaurd and mounting it there you are back to under the seat then if you need it seat comes forward and theres the jack ..
its all a compromise .
for ease mine is now mounted in the rear of the G with high-lift mounting brackets .
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

TWODOGS - 1/5/2007 9:47 AM

good point Dave have you been counting the pins/spikes , nine is the way as stated the the combat engineer handbook .
the kit under the seat dont move at all when the seat is down its locked in place .
I also carry a tirfor hand winch in a box in the rear pulls from any angle and never lets you down .
Twodogs



Ex-Mission,snatch block and strop are handy too.

Dave P
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

Dave keep the faith ....
Twodogs
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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

DesertStar - 1/5/2007 5:01 AM

He was referring to my post earlier...as my name is DesertStar, and 4x4ABC was saying he agreed with some of what I said. There is no "desertstar jack". But there is a "DesertStar dont know Jack" so I have been told...just kidding.
Anyway, I did find this in the web, which might give you an idea.
http://www.jeeptech.com/body/him.html

Also realize the jack is long and a bit awkward so sacrifices may have to be made when it comes to where you want it mounted. Maybe make a "canvas sheath" for it and secure it to the floor with the securing loops if you G has them.

Lastly, if your G has the rear jump seats, maybe pull one of them out and utilize the existing bolt holes for mounting on the side ?


Mike


Haha my blue mornings hope you got a good laughs. i did now First i thought that there's some good alternatives to Hi-Lift. Not for changing tires but lifting a car up "from" and over.

i.e.:



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RE: Ideas for internal Hi Lift mounting?

wow that looks cold
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