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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659  | 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... hi guys, I've spotted this 300GD Kastenwagen for a decent price. It's from 1982 and it has got the Kastenwagen body, which you don't see that often and I personally find very nice. Really can't use another project car, but this one is quite tempting. To already justify buying this one, this one is over 25 years old and runs on diesel, which together will save me almost E 2000,- per year ($ 2500,- ...?). Next saturdarday I'll have a closer look and take it for a test drive...I'm afraid I'll just have to buy it... Bram (Afb001.jpg) (Afb002.jpg) Attachments ----------------  Afb001.jpg (133KB - 13 downloads) Afb002.jpg (145KB - 12 downloads) | |
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| dentsmithy Elite Veteran Date registered: Sep 2007 Location: NFA Vehicle(s): 1986 230Ge, , 1979 240gd cabrio, AD-SL Posts: 912  | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but...
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| TWODOGS Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK Vehicle(s): Norwegian Army 240GD Posts: 584 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... HMMM.........van body  , make a good expedition G  Twodogs | |
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156  | ||
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| mb230s Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SWFL Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40 | ||
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| trc Elite Veteran Date registered: Jun 2006 Location: Estonia Vehicle(s): MB G350DT '93; MB 300 SD '83 ; Subaru Forester, Posts: 786 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... and look at the bright side - you can mount two trailers - to fit more stuff to your journey  | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A  | ||
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| Luky Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia, EU Vehicle(s): 300GE LWB auto, E320CDI 4M, VW Polo Classic 1.6 Posts: 1062 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| Luky Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia, EU Vehicle(s): 300GE LWB auto, E320CDI 4M, VW Polo Classic 1.6 Posts: 1062 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... today went and visited the 300GD...of course, forgot to take some pictures, but here short overview of this G: - body is decent in such that it doesn't have any dents or bruises. But as expected, some rust. Right side front panel, both rocker panels, right rear taillight section were the worst, other sections had spots that can hopefully be repaired without welding / replacing sections. Floor at foot wells also were wet, some rust there to be expected as well. But anyway, nothing I can't fix. - body reinforcement sections that go underneath the roof somehow had come apart from the roof. It's not welded, but glued originally. Anyway, roof made a tremendous vibration when idling (went away when engine warmed up and idled smoother). Probably some idiots tried to tie heavy stuff to these sections - original seats missing - middle console all duc-taped - panels left and right of steering column slightly damaged - wipers didn't work - original steering wheel missing - headliner and sunvisors bit dirty - car originally used to be yellow, paintjob is nice because inside and outside are painted. - Engine started and idled very well. Very little engine blow by, no smoke coming out of the breather pipe. - Engine rocked very hard when taking off in 1st (or starting or shutting off engine), probably badly worn engine rubbers - Car is very slow in comparison to my 280GE. Felt like nothing happened when accelerating in third gear...there really should be a turbo engine in there - brake pedal was hard to press. Car did decelerate, but felt like it needed some attention on the brakes...could also be the vacuum assist, didn't check. - I was told it is original, but there's a little knob on the dash which you can turn and turning it makes the car idle faster or slower. Some kind of hand throttle. Should be used during cold starts...is this original? - car had no tachometer, is this hard to install on a diesel G? Where does it get it's revs from? - both rear shock absorber topmounts broken off, both repaired by welding a heavy L-section directy to the frame and mounting the shock to that. - it comes on 4 brand new tires but as said, it is road tax free and therefor this G-company can't do too much on the price. Car is already planned to be disassembled, so that on this road tax free chassis a modern G-body can be installed. I'll try to make a deal with him that I take the car for what he's asking, but then he should include some parts that are not in too good shape, are missing or that I would like to have: - spare wheel carrier for on the rear (he's got another parts G with such a carrier) - original MB steering wheel - decent middle console - decent sunvisors - some small interior parts - original G-seats. Preferably the skai ones as installed on the BGS G's... Then I also would like to install a section so that the cab will be seperated from the cargo section. Will make the ride less noisier and the cab easier to warm up. But that isn't so critical on the short run... Hopefully he'll find my offer acceptable and gives me some support in parts that he's got laying around and helps me getting this G back into nice shape. What do you guys think? Asking price is E 5500,- ( +/- $ 6800,-). Buying this car and storing my non-road tax 280GE for a year and a half (then it's also road tax free) will save me E 3000,- on road tax and gas at 5000km / year. Taking this into account, then this 300GD is a little more interesting... Bram Edited by bram_r 2/9/2008 1:01 PM | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... hi guys, just one thing I need your confirmation on, does a 1982 300GD originally have this little knob left to the radio where you can adjust your idle with when turning it? I think so reading through some old articles I have, but still am very surprised to see it, only thought these kind of options would go together with PTO functions. Seller told it was also great for off road driving, just increase your idle somewhat and this G will climb up everywhere without using the accelerator pedal... Also, how difficult is it to install a rev. counter in such a car? Does the crank already have the right indicator somewhere and is it just a matter of plugging in the right sensor and hooking it up to the rev. counter? Or is even the wiring harness prepared? thanks for your input, Bram Edited by bram_r 2/11/2008 7:11 PM | |
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... bram_r - 2/11/2008 3:52 PM hi guys, just one thing I need your confirmation on, does a 1982 300GD originally have this little knob left to the radio where you can adjust your idle with when turning it? I think so reading through some old articles I have, but still am very surprised to see it, only thought these kind of options would go together with PTO functions. Seller told it was also great for off road driving, just increase your idle somewhat and this G will climb up everywhere without using the accelerator pedal... Also, how difficult is it to install a rev. counter in such a car? Does the crank already have the right indicator somewhere and is it just a matter of plugging in the right sensor and hooking it up to the rev. counter? Or is even the wiring harness prepared? thanks for your input, Bram The diesels came with the knob...see this thread: http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=7576&pos... Someone else may need to chime in on the rev counter. I gather the diesel makes your 280 feel like a rocket...that's scary, but off-road less speed yielding more control is your friend. Mike | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... I gather the diesel makes your 280 feel like a rocket...that's scary it sure was, just took this 300GD for a small test drive up and down the road, but you would almost suspect something is wrong with the engine accelelating this slow. And indeed, next day took my 280GE for a drive and it feld twice as fast as the last time I drove it thanks for the link as well, will send an email to the seller today with all my wanted extra's, see how he responds... Bram | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| TWODOGS Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK Vehicle(s): Norwegian Army 240GD Posts: 584 | ||
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| Chrisgd300 Veteran Date registered: May 2006 Location: Belgium Vehicle(s): 86 GD 300 and a few others Posts: 232  | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... so a little later than planned due to several reasons, work has commenced on the 300GD Kastenwagen. now making lists of needed parts and needed service before I can take the car to inspection. I've also removed some of the 'installations' previous owners made, better to just rip it out and build my own options. Pretty soon my parts will come in, so I can do some technical and optical improvements on the car. Today I parked it outside and sure this G has a lot of potential. My plan is after it is reliable and road worthy, to build me a ride that can take me on roundtrips to Scandinavia or Africa. But that's more than a year from now before I'm getting a that stage. Besides the rotten rockers, also the panel below cargo doors are pretty rusted. Fluids for brakes, clutch and lockers looks pretty black. Door hinges worn and a lot more work like this. But we'll get there. In the background my 280GE, which is now in storage. In 12 months it will be road tax free, so until then it's saving me a lot of money to store it. Bram (DSCN7295k.JPG) Attachments ---------------- DSCN7295k.JPG (65KB - 5 downloads) | |
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