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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Nice to clean the chassis this way so thouroughly. Ordered new fuel, brake and locker lines to replace the stuff that is hard to reach when the body is back on. I forget to ask it last post. For installation of the old Polizei interior, I find in the EPC this is part of SA 59 084. How do I find additional info on this SA (parts and installation)? The EPC pics are not that clear on this. For the roof gun hatch I need some reinforcement so it seams, heavy part! Bram (IMG_1888k.jpg) (roof reinforcement.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1888k.jpg (127KB - 0 downloads) roof reinforcement.jpg (85KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Got some new parts in, doing some jobs on the chassis and body that are otherwise hard to reach. One question though. As per http://www.hanshehl.de/teilenummer.htm site, I ordered the body support brackets for the supports that are behind the front wheel. Bracket pn. A4603172201 Holders for 65mm dampers pn. 4603170435 Now the holes are way too big in the brackets. Any suggestions from you how you guys solved this? Looks like Hans welds the complete pn. 4603100075 part in there. (IMG_1899k.jpg) (IMG_1900k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1899k.jpg (132KB - 0 downloads) IMG_1900k.jpg (126KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... I was following this one on ebay.de, about 30min before closing it was only at E 230,- As always, price started climbing really fast at the end, too much for me. http://www.ebay.nl/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140883977347&... It is a pretty big winch, 5000kg towing force with a lot of cable. But I like the Rotlzers, anyone saw such a 5000 H/2 Rotzler winch before on a G? gBram | ||
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Fernando BR Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: Brasil Vehicle(s): G500/05 300GE/91 300GD/80 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Bran may be you need the sleeve. My EPC doesnt show 4603172201 and search function returns "it doesnt exist". (sleeve.JPG) Attachments ---------------- sleeve.JPG (102KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... I need to take and upload a lot of pics, but a few pics as update: - cut of front body mounts, now welding on new mounts on new sections of tube. Fabricated a small jig to align the parts. - installed PTO transfer case - bought a new MB fuel tank (not G). Need to decide whether to use it as extra fuel tank or water tank. Pn is listed, got it cheap I bought a camera so more pics in the upcoming weeks showing progress. gr. Bram (IMG_2089k.jpg) (IMG_2092k.jpg) (IMG_2095k.jpg) (IMG_2097k.jpg) (IMG_2098k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_2089k.jpg (153KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2092k.jpg (144KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2095k.jpg (133KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2097k.jpg (130KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2098k.jpg (118KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Another small update, really haven't progressed a lot lately because of the cold weather and some other things.. Anyway, hereby some pics and info. Some pics showing the body on the lift, with the results of the TeroTex undercoating. I used Terolan53 as a sealant to close all kinds of corners and seams, works nice this stuff. Then I spray painted the Terotex 2000HS on, very nice finish. Hopefully it's as durable as it looks. The Terotex products got a pretty good reputations when it comes to body protection, good results in tests and are also OEM used (I was told).. Then today also time to get a little dirty cleaning up my om617a. It was pretty greasy and oily all over. This pic was when I was halfway, it's pretty good on this side now, will clean the other side next weekend. I will replace a number of parts or inspect them, also based on what I found on my om617. Hopefully it will make a great runner! gr. Bram (DSCN9049k.jpg) (DSCN9062k.jpg) (DSCN9052k.jpg) (DSCN9053k.jpg) (DSCN9064k.jpg) (DSCN9059k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSCN9049k.jpg (156KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9062k.jpg (166KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9052k.jpg (172KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9053k.jpg (170KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9064k.jpg (144KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9059k.jpg (181KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Tonight I spent some more time cleaning the other side of the engine and removing some parts. My om617a is of 016 type, probably from 1980 model? I was also wondering what that aluminum block off plate is blocking. Certainly no original plate. See second picture, alu plate above the vacuum pump. gr. Bram Edited by bram_r 4/12/2013 8:44 PM (DSCN9067k.jpg) (DSCN9082k.jpg) (DSCN9087k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSCN9067k.jpg (164KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9082k.jpg (173KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9087k.jpg (209KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... The block off plate is for a hydraulic pump for the S-Class sedans or TD wagons rear self leveling system. Normally there is a rotary pump there. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-HYDRALIC-SELF-LEVELING-PUMP-126-CH... Mark Edited by Inkblotz 4/12/2013 9:11 PM | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... bram_r - 4/12/2013 6:41 PM ...My om617a is of 016 type, probably from 1980 model?... Thats only a head casting number, not so much related to the version of the engine. Find the stamped engine number to get a better idea. 2nd 3 numbers will be 960 (early motor, slightly lower output, slightly lower durability of camshaft), 961 (most common) or 962 (TD wagon motor). finding the engine number will be interesting too in order to know if that is the original head or not. Looks like it's been ridden hard though. Are you rebuilding it or dropping it in as is? All the best, -Dave G. | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Thanks guys! I remembered something being there such as a small pump. I don't think there's much use for such a pump in my G, so I will leave it blocked for now. @ Dave: I got this engine of a W123 300TDT wagon which I bought some time ago. Engine ran quite good and looking at the blow by coming out of the oil filler cap, made me think the pistons and compression was okay. My modern Peugeot daily driver has got a lot more blow by / oil fumes coming out of the oil filler cap! Should have done a compression test before removing the engine from that car, but I didn't do that. For now, I will replace some gaskets, hoses, thermostat etc and drop it in the car. I found a company near by to do my copy balance job of the flexplate to the 300GD flywheel. Then get it running, do all the attachment work on exhaust, air inlet, oil pressure sender and see what's to be done on the sump. Will do a compression test later of course, but this engine should be good enough to get my G moving anyway Can I order gaskets for the water pump, vacuumpump, thermostat and all stuff using my 300GD VIN? In other words, are these parts common between om617 and om617a? What other source can I use to check om617a partnumbers? Also, while going out for buying a 711.113 tranny, I ended up buying a om617a engine in parts. It apparently got a little hydro-lcoked earlier this year and one (or more) of the conrods was slightly bend. Not sure what to do, selling the parts, keeping the parts or rebuilding it...I will anyway check some dimensions on the cylinder and pistons to get an indication how worn this engine is. Will discuss this with an MB specialist and see what he recommends. I have a lot of spares now for little money anyway Bram Edited by bram_r 4/13/2013 6:28 PM (IMG_2332k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_2332k.jpg (127KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... The number on the cylinder block is 617 952 12 ... ... That's also the number on the parts engine I got. Have to see what I'm going to do with this pile of parts @ Dave: you rebuild your 617a right? For thermostat, waterpump, vacuumpump, valve cover; can I use partnumbers for seals, gaskets and mounting hardware of a 617 n/a? Thanks, Bram | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Ealier I posted some pics about the non-fitment of bracket pn. A4603172201 and holders for 65mm dampers pn. 4603170435. Today I did some work on these, see pics as well. Because the diameters between the bracket hole and the damper cup didn't match, I found after some searching an almost correct pipe at a friends place. This pipe will be filling the gap between bracket and cup. The pipe was a little bit too big, so after cutting a 10mm wide section of the pipe, I made a small cut in that section so I could fold the ring inside the bracket. The bracket is made out of 4mm steel, so my 10mm pipe section was sticking 3mm out both top and bottom. At the bottom I made some welds. The top I welded complete round, also because I didn't want to leave a 'gutter' in which water and dirt can accumulate. Inside my ring, now the damper cup can be placed. I made a small tool to work as a stopper at the correct depth for the damper cup. I measured the dimension on the original one of course. Now it's time to make some tack welds with this pieces on the car for final alingment on the chassis, That I'll do next time. Bram (DSCN9162k.jpg) (DSCN9163k.jpg) (DSCN9165k.jpg) (DSCN9166k.jpg) (DSCN9181k.jpg) (DSCN9183k.jpg) (DSCN9178k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSCN9162k.jpg (170KB - 1 downloads) DSCN9163k.jpg (157KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9165k.jpg (120KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9166k.jpg (101KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9181k.jpg (140KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9183k.jpg (138KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9178k.jpg (84KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... And today it was time to mount and weld these brackets to the frame again. With one bracket cut off the frame, I put the body back on, and used the body as a template to exactly where the brackets should be. Of course, using some steel strip as guidance, I got the pipe in line with the pipe coming out of the chassis. Then made some tack welds and made some position markings. I also did a check to see if my bracket lined up horizontally with the original one. After lifting the body again, it was time to make all the final welds. Did the same thing on the other side, so now this job is done. Only needs some paint to prevent it from rusting. And also have to see where I should cut these bars per 4x4abs advice may I at a later stage mount larger tires. I already have them cut at 45 degrees now, but they can be made a little shorter if I wanted. gr. Bram (DSCN9281k.jpg) (DSCN9283k.jpg) (DSCN9293k.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSCN9281k.jpg (119KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9283k.jpg (104KB - 0 downloads) DSCN9293k.jpg (152KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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fsedak Veteran Date registered: Feb 2010 Location: Europa Vehicle(s): G (460) - cabrio (1985) and G (460) - cabrio 1980 Posts: 162 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... I really like this, your project ! | ||
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Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Thats some impressive work there Bram. Mark | ||
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Fernando BR Date registered: Jan 2007 Location: Brasil Vehicle(s): G500/05 300GE/91 300GD/80 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... bram_r - 4/25/2012 6:59 AM With my laptop crashed, I need some help getting the right EPC info. Please look at following pictures. Does someone know the partnummer of those strips indicated by the red arrows (left and right side)? Those reinforcement strips are located behind the rear fender arch and go from the rocker panel to the belt line of the body. The VIN is for a 1982 300GD lwb, van body style, but I believe this part is the same for the 5 dr version (looking at my 280GE). gr. Bram Bram did you check : 460 630 15 11 and 16 11 , they are the only interior reforcement EPC-net shows to my w460 1980 at that place. Take care, Edited by Fernando BR 8/30/2013 7:18 PM | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Fernando BR - 8/31/2013 1:17 AM bram_r - 4/25/2012 6:59 AM With my laptop crashed, I need some help getting the right EPC info. Please look at following pictures. Does someone know the partnummer of those strips indicated by the red arrows (left and right side)? Those reinforcement strips are located behind the rear fender arch and go from the rocker panel to the belt line of the body. The VIN is for a 1982 300GD lwb, van body style, but I believe this part is the same for the 5 dr version (looking at my 280GE). gr. Bram Bram did you check : 460 630 15 11 and 16 11 , they are the only interior reforcement EPC-net shows to my w460 1980 at that place. Take care, Hi Fernando, I bought the partnumbers Wout posted in respons of my question. These worked out really well! gr. Bram | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... And bought a (PTO) winch for the Kasten With thanks to the help of Raicar who gave me some good and credentials on this winch, I bought a Superwinch mechanical PTO winch. These winches are also installed by Keller, a Swiss company prepping G's for Swiss utility companies. Basicly a small propshaft on the PTO flange goes all the way to the front bumper and there powers the winch. On the rear you can see where it connects to the propshaft With a lever on the winch, you can put it in gear and the winch start pulling. Of course, you have to put the PTO in gear first... Pretty hefty winch with lots of room for a lot of winch cable. And fitted on a G before, so should work okay! Some pics, of course will rebuild it to some extend. Will contact Superwinch for some parts and manuals information. (IMG_2915 (Small).JPG) (IMG_2918 (Small).JPG) (IMG_2920 (Small).JPG) (IMG_2921 (Small).JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_2915 (Small).JPG (72KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2918 (Small).JPG (61KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2920 (Small).JPG (71KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2921 (Small).JPG (71KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Wow how much does that winch weigh? | ||
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bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | Re: 300GD Kastenwagen, shouldn't do it, but... Inkblotz - 9/1/2013 1:32 PM Wow how much does that winch weigh? It certainly didn't feel much heavier that the Rotzler winch. I can weigh it at a later stage. gr. Bram | ||
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