I have 711.116 and 711.117

patern is

R24

135

You could invert the 1st/rev selector on the 711.11x to give

124

R35

but I don't see the point.

Note that on the 711.117 the 1st/rev lever ( the foremost) points down. 

With the 711.117 I have the original military shifter

and with the 711.116 i have the 190 2.3 16v cosworth one. Both have lift for reverse and 'rest' between 2 and 3.

Well it was on all the vehicles I found that had the 711.11X gearbox option that I found on the russian site.

Sorry for any confusion.  My response was in relation to Bram's question about the 275.  That's the only Getrag I've driven in a G.

-Dave G.

Loki Laufeyjarson - 7/3/2008 7:52 AM The shift pattern is not critical. All shifters can be used with any gearbox - but you might have to re-number the knob! The mechanic that mounted the old delivery van gearbox to the stock 5 speed Getrag shifter of my G did it like this (he apoligized but said he was in a hurry!): 24R 351 It is always a little strange to shift from 1st to 2nd but the main thing is to have the 1st and reverse on the same linkage (instead of 5th and reverse of the Getrag) -no matter if it is to the left or right of the shift assembly Loki

My point above exactly, Loki.  Any shifter CAN be used.  Some are less tolerable due to crazy shifting patterns.  Again, no problem for the one who is regularly familiar with the vehicle, but sometimes asking too much for someone not familiar with it to be able to drive it safely.  Crossing the whole pattern from 1 to 2?  What a pain.  I dislike even the fact I have to move out of the R gate on mine enough to have finally handed over the cash to Guido for a proper shifter.  I guess not bad enough to have actually installed it yet though!!!! 

All the best,

-Dave G.

I think that's why the shifter from the 190 cosworth feels the best - you still have to go into the 1st/rev gate to get 1st but when it's in the stick falls to the right 9 almost into 3rd position and makes the 1st to 2nd change a bit smoother. I'd like to hear your thoughts when you get the proper one in - my military one is a bit sloppy and needs a rebuild. 

Will do.  Just a thought....are you sure the slop is in the shifter and not just the linkage bushings underneath?  Forward/back slop in the lever after the box is in gear is usually the bushings.  Yet another bag of parts waiting to be installed. 

-Dave G.

it's a bit of everything resulting from my excitement to get the thing up and running and it was only meant to be a stop gap untill the other one was ready :-

rods need tuning  

bushes need replacing

shifter needs rebuilding.

With the second one, 711.116, new bushings, rod lengths carefully adjusted and that sweet cosworth shifter everything just drops into place.

What did I say a few months ago about doing it right first time  

That's right!  "Do as I say, not as I do!" 

-Dave G.