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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963  | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| petermerle Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Cape Town ( deep south ) Vehicle(s): W460 *1, W123 *2, W124 Posts: 1315  | ||
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| ewalberg Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany Vehicle(s): 2000 g500 Posts: 1887 | ||
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| G-AMG G-Class DIY Host Date registered: May 2006 Location: South Texas Vehicle(s): '04 G55, '80 280GE, '99 S420, '98 E320, 2011 E350 | Re: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? ewalberg - 2/9/2009 1:16 PM changing the subject a little, my only other thought would be to potentially put the slit at the bottom and let the grease in the swivel seal it... if you put the split at the top where the grease gets less penetration, and you do get water in there... now it has no way to escape... where as with the slit at the bottom, you're at least more likely to have water exit that same path of entry. I think i put the inner steel split ring slit downward and not found any water inside my swivels. If it is true that the "New" axles are similar to the "Old" (pre 7 000 560) Split ring gaskets style, then logic would suggest that ewalberg is correct, that the split ring SHOULD be at the 6 o'clock position. See the attached excerpt from the manual. (Split Ring.JPG) Attachments ----------------  Split Ring.JPG (59KB - 2 downloads) | |
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| MiN Extreme Veteran Date registered: May 2006 Location: Alpujarras, Spain Vehicle(s): No cars, at all. Posts: 555  | ||
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| 4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | Re: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? those very early seals and seal holders were pretty simple - the upgrade was much needed (1.jpg) (2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (55KB - 5 downloads) 2.jpg (60KB - 5 downloads) | |
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| Wout Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Vehicle(s): Mercedes 280GE 1979/230G 1980/ C220CDI/A170CDI/ Posts: 145  | Re: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? ewalberg - 2/9/2009 7:16 PM I can tell you right now just looking at those clips they will not bend nicely like a staple. They need to have clearance holes in something... somewhere... because bending them, even if they were designed to be a staple, i think will only make the seal worse than if they were not present. Wout sounded like he was saying you needed a specific inner or outer ring with clearance holes to go with it... that's kinda how i read his post... or could the inner split ring already have 2 holes in it on each side of the split? maybe i'm starting to imagine things... The inner metal ring (partno 74) has two small holes where the ends of the clip will fit in. These holes are not on both sides of the split . wkr Wout (inner ring wipe seal.gif) Attachments ---------------- inner ring wipe seal.gif (2KB - 6 downloads) | |
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156  | RE: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? Here is a photo illustrating the holes that Wout describes: Mike (DSCF0011 [800x600].JPG) Attachments ---------------- DSCF0011 [800x600].JPG (48KB - 5 downloads) | |
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| frank_be Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Vehicle(s): G350 Turbo Posts: 148 | Re: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? DUTCH - 2/8/2009 8:49 PM frank_be - 2/8/2009 2:16 PM Thanks Frank. These seals will be installed without removing the hub. Tis the reason for going with the split version.Hi Dutch, As far as my memory goes, I believe those clips only have to be used when you change the original 1-piece grease seal with a new grease seal that has been cut. So if you have the chance to use a new non-cut grease seal, that is the better option. I have done 3 or 4 front axle services and I have never used those clips. I always used new non-cut grease seals instead. You wil have to remove the outer part of the axle hub however. Hope this helps. Greetings from Belgium, Frank I've been advised by some German G-uru's never to use the split grease seal because they are "scheisse zum montieren" You will probably find out yourselve soon. Greetings, Frank | |
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| ewalberg Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany Vehicle(s): 2000 g500 Posts: 1887 | ||
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? DUTCH - 3/2/2009 1:14 PM DesertStar - 3/2/2009 3:47 PM Not yet. It's a warm weather project, and that hasn't reached here yet.Dutch, have you done this yet ? Looking forward to hear the results as I await my seal and clip to arrive. Mike Well, maybe I will beat you to it. I am still a little confused on which way the clip faces and hope once I get the parts it will all make sense. Mike | |
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | RE: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? DesertStar - 3/2/2009 4:55 PM DUTCH - 3/2/2009 1:14 PM DesertStar - 3/2/2009 3:47 PM Not yet. It's a warm weather project, and that hasn't reached here yet.Dutch, have you done this yet ? Looking forward to hear the results as I await my seal and clip to arrive. Mike Well, maybe I will beat you to it. I am still a little confused on which way the clip faces and hope once I get the parts it will all make sense. Mike From everything I can ascertain, the points go towards the ball and into those holes in the inner seal support ring (#74 in the exploded parts diagram posted by Wout). Otherwise there won't be anything to hold it in place; and I sure don't want it floating around in the swivel ball grease where it could tear of a CV Joint boot. If you beat me to it, let us know what you find. | |
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | RE: Split Swipe Seal Clip - How To ?? I just completed. Just as Wout describes. Not to painful, but will admit it is much easier with the clips aiding holding the seal in place. I tried the "home-made" version of cutting my own seal and not using clips and could not get a tight enough seal which caused excess grease buildup. Sorry, no photos as it was a bit dirty and greasy, but here is a another illustration I made showing clip placement. Have fun, Mike (swiper.JPG) Attachments ---------------- swiper.JPG (36KB - 2 downloads) | |
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| DesertStar Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500 Posts: 2156 | ||
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| MiN Extreme Veteran Date registered: May 2006 Location: Alpujarras, Spain Vehicle(s): No cars, at all. Posts: 555 | ||
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