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Posted 8/5/2013 6:21 AM
LucaB
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RE: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

this has just happened to me, now went to MB and because they are next to close for a week for summer holiday they didn't have time to connect diagnostic and see if it is the controller the motor or both. The car apart from this is doing fine, no need for low gears. I just need to drive normally for a couple of weeks till they have time to fix. Can I keep on driving normally or will the car soon fail?
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Posted 8/5/2013 9:33 AM
94rover
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

I was able to drive 300 + miles this past weekend with no troubles. Whenever I stopped and moved the gear selector to P, I did have to work the procedure to get back in H. Slightly annoying but no complaints because my family and I weren't left stranded.
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Posted 8/5/2013 9:39 AM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

94rover - 8/5/2013 6:33 AM

I was able to drive 300 + miles this past weekend with no troubles. Whenever I stopped and moved the gear selector to P, I did have to work the procedure to get back in H. Slightly annoying but no complaints because my family and I weren't left stranded.


Question: were you able to tell / verify that the TC was not any longer in H, or did just the "H" disappear from the display?

Karl
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Posted 8/5/2013 10:33 AM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Yes, I knew the truck was no longer in H or L. The first moment was after stopping to take pics at the first mountain overlook. "Nail biting" moment too because I was unable to move forward to return to road and continue up to our destination and the unknown of vehicles approaching with my front end siting in the path of oncoming traffic.

The H was not visible on the display after starting up from, campsite arrival/check in, unloading of gear and during the return trip home after the refill of gas/petrol. Whenever selecting D, I was greeted by the "beep" and a couple of messages on display. I pressed the foot pedal to move forward and got nothing but a long slugish movement with high rev. Stopped, placed gear selector in P, set the parking brake, then N and switch to Low then High and held it for maybe 15 secs and we all heard the gear grind. After doing that a few times while moving forward went into H still with no H visible on the display.

Karl, where is that part you once made available on your site for TC Motor emergency roadside repair?...
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Posted 8/12/2013 11:02 PM
E117705
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Great timing on refreshing this thread...

Just bought my first G500 a month ago (I've been a Land Cruiser guy for years). Its a 2004. 117K miles. I am at least the 3rd owner. Been driving it regularly and making my way through a maintenance and repair list.

Saturday night when I was parallel parking I got the "TC in Neutral" and a blank square. I was driving it so I knew it was not really in neutral. The next day I had the beeping when I opened the driver door with the same message. I went through the routine of cycling between H and L and got the H back in the dash. Not seen it in the last day or two.

Guess I may have begun my borrowed time? I checked the electrical connectors and those all look good, so maybe I will start looking for a motor and maybe a module.... and keep an eye on this thread.

Thanks!
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Posted 10/8/2013 1:34 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

2002 G500
Replaced motor A 463 540 00 88 in November 2007.
Still getting occasional "blank" not HI or LO. (Which so far I can correct).
Looking at replacing original Transfer Case Module which hopefully hasn't compromised new motor ?
Looks like 463 545 2732 has been superseded by 463 901 07 00.
Am I correct ?
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Posted 10/8/2013 2:37 PM
drey
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

E11705...Replace the motor first you may not need the module.

The motor is super easy to R and R, the module is a PITA.



Edited by drey 10/8/2013 2:39 PM
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Posted 10/9/2013 12:14 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Strictly talking about TC modules, which is the "best" TC module to get for an '03 G500?

Is it # A463 545 2732?

Or is there a newer "better" one?
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Posted 10/9/2013 1:05 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Re: Transfer Case Module - As I mentioned in a previous post and a check with any Mercedes dealer and online sources should confirm: "Looks like 463 545 2732 has been superseded by 463 901 07 00".
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Posted 10/9/2013 2:11 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

capdenuit - 10/9/2013 1:05 PM

Re: Transfer Case Module - As I mentioned in a previous post and a check with any Mercedes dealer and online sources should confirm: "Looks like 463 545 2732 has been superseded by 463 901 07 00".



Is that a different part, though, or just a new part number, I wonder?

At very least, the most recent TC module for a G500 prior to 463 901 07 00 is 463 545 2732, then?
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Posted 10/14/2013 8:32 AM
Sassen
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RE: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

For those with transfer case module issue, what I did in the past with my RangeRover 2001 P38, I disconnected the wiring after placing the motor in High, you could do this with power directly or after following your procedure to put it in high, you may get a warning on the dash, but at least you know you are in High at all times, clearly avoid mudding if you would need Low range ;). Hope this helps someone.
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Posted 11/8/2013 6:18 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

As a preventive measure I decided to replace the original TC Module in my G500 so I purchased an updated Transfer Case Module 463 901 07 00 from an online US source for less than 400$ vs 800$ from my Canadian dealer.
Dealer understood and after installation new module will not save any of the programming. Now waiting for a replacement module through dealer and coming from down east.
Can't see any point in putting the old one back. Major deal BTW in replacing as buried below the centre console which needs to be removed in its entirety.
So in the middle of an expensive mess!
Ouch!
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Posted 3/6/2014 2:23 PM
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Date registered: Sep 2013
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Can anyone confirm that the TC motor for the 2004-2006 G55AMG will fit a 2003 G55AMG?

A-1 Cardone sells a remanufactured TC motor for about $250-$300, but as you will see below, they claim that it only fits 2004-2006 G55AMG and 2004-2007 G500.

I would like to use this unit in my 2003 G55AMG.

Any comments or recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks
Vinay



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Posted 3/6/2014 4:53 PM
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Re: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

get the original:
http://www.invasionautoproducts.com/20mebegcltrc.html
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Posted 1/29/2015 1:36 PM
Thomas109
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RE: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Hello w5yk, i have the same issue, just ordered a new TC motor as well as the TC control module, i am going to take out the center console myself to save some costs, and have my mechanic do the instal and the star programming. Do you by chance have instructions or any advise on how to take out the center console? sorry to bother you buy i have not been able to find any advise on the forums.
Cheers,
Nick
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Posted 1/29/2015 1:40 PM
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RE: Transfer Case in Neutral - let's get scientific

Thomas109 - 1/29/2015 1:36 PM

Hello w5yk, i have the same issue, just ordered a new TC motor as well as the TC control module, i am going to take out the center console myself to save some costs, and have my mechanic do the instal and the star programming. Do you by chance have instructions or any advise on how to take out the center console? sorry to bother you buy i have not been able to find any advise on the forums.
Cheers,
Nick


Did you see the post put up earlier today?

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