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Posted 1/18/2010 9:43 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Thanks Hus55

You already had the lift when you did sump modification? Since I don't have the lift I'll either have alot more work to do on the sump or I'll have to go for the lift
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Posted 1/18/2010 1:42 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Hello to everybody!!!I am a Greek guy and i have a mercedes w460 G-wagen GD300 1981 in which i ll do the conversion of engine om606.
I started to read your forum 3 months ago and i should say that it's fantastic!!!
As i have in my mind that conversion i have also many questions who i'm looking for the answers,i hope that you help me....
I also read the Huss project and i should say that is perfect!!!!
Way@out could you explain me if it easy to put that transmission as isn't like G's???This gearbos has probes(i don't know if it's the correct word) but the G's has shifter!!!
I also spoke with Myna diesel at Finland about the modified pump.......


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Posted 1/18/2010 3:35 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

hi greek guy gvp. please fill in your profile. wher are you from,greece or cyprus?

Hus55 project....i like that. it seems my conversion has a patent marking now

way@out no problem mate btw you are right, i had the orc coil and body lift before the 606 was fitted. as regards to the sump, i will end up getting the original G300 TD sump in the summer, its better suited to off road use.


i will get gearbox info soon too.
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Posted 2/2/2010 6:49 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Any news of the conversion?????Guys could you confirm me that 711.620 can be bolt on at OM606 engine????

HUss i sent you p.m but i think that you didn't read it!!
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Posted 2/2/2010 7:00 PM
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Posted 2/3/2010 4:50 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

gvp - 2/2/2010 6:49 PM

Any news of the conversion?????Guys could you confirm me that 711.620 can be bolt on at OM606 engine????

HUss i sent you p.m but i think that you didn't read it!!


Hi GVP, the 711.620 does bolt up to the om606. I have bought the 711.620 since my last post, now I'm working out the clutch and DMF. I should have them next week.

Once I've got the tranny and engine bolted up I'll start the actual swap. At that point I'll be updating with info about the engine mounts and oil pan modifications.
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Posted 2/3/2010 8:32 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Which dmf and clutch do you use??from sprinter???
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Posted 2/3/2010 3:23 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Yes, it will be from the sprinter.
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Posted 2/3/2010 4:21 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

good going way@out,look forward to seeing the end result...

gvp, you have a pm, sorry for the delay
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Posted 2/3/2010 5:52 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

way@out Keep us informed about your conversion...

Huss isent you another p.m.
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Posted 2/4/2010 7:34 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

My new clutch... (without DMF)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-SOLID-FLYWHEEL-CLUTCH-KIT-MERCEDES-...

I got my tranny from these guys, ask for their rebuilt trannys... it's worth the difference.

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/vanservicesltd/

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Posted 2/4/2010 8:29 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

I know these guys from the e-bay,i ve just spoke with them....
How much did you pay for the 711.620 rebuilt??
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Posted 2/4/2010 10:06 AM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

gvp - 2/4/2010 8:29 AM

I know these guys from the e-bay,i ve just spoke with them....
How much did you pay for the 711.620 rebuilt??


I got it for 460£

My engine got dropped off at my door for 1020£
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Posted 2/4/2010 12:56 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Very good prices...From who did you buy the engine??
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Posted 2/5/2010 5:36 AM
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I got the engine from this guy off of ebay

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=brow...


And I got the om603 mechanical pump from these guys for 399€
http://stores.shop.ebay.de/EIN-HERZ-FUR-MERCEDES-BENZ__W0QQ_armrsZ1
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Posted 2/5/2010 7:51 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Thanks!!!We ll wait news from your conversion....
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Posted 2/19/2010 8:43 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Well the engine and gearbox came out today and I came across a linkage that connects the transfer case to the gearbox. Does anyone have any idea of what's it purpose?



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Posted 2/19/2010 9:18 PM
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Re: Swaping a 617 for a 606

That stabilizes the unit. Helps to keep vibration down.

Mark
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Posted 2/20/2010 3:22 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

Thanks, I guess that'll be a few more rubbers to buy since it's at hand.
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Posted 3/2/2010 9:19 PM
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RE: Swaping a 617 for a 606

I got a pleasant surprise today, the original 8 bolt connection on the output end of the gearbox can be put on the sprinter gearbox. The spline is the same but there is a difference in length, the one removed from the sprinter is about 42mm long and the one off my original 5 speed is 74mm. Which also includes 13mm difference in the length of the spline. I've compared the length of the two gearboxes and the sprinter tranny seems to be about 100mm shorter. Here are a few pics.


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