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dentsmithy
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Sep 2007
Location: NFA
Vehicle(s): 1986 230Ge, , 1979 240gd cabrio, AD-SL
Posts: 912
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
I have the original Rotzler mounting brochure and type approval certificate on pdf if any of you purists haven't allready found it. It's 1.9 Mb so not sure how to upload it and don't know if I can email anything that big but if you tell me how i'll do it. edit:- I can email it
Edited by dentsmithy 2/6/2011 7:31 AM
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hus55
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: north cyprus,lapta.
Vehicle(s): 300GDS, G300 LONG,300GDT CLK55 AMG CAB.
Posts: 2230
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
please post it here chris or to my email hus55@hotmail.co.uk
this will be well appreciated mate  |
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hipine
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: US, CO, Bailey
Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A
| Nice work Bram!
Nice work on the winch, Bram. Don't abuse your alternator that way though man. You'll cook it in a hurry. For light puling around the yard, a big battery can probably get you pretty far. If you find yourself draining the battery, you need to upgrade the alternator. Fernando posted some good links a little while ago.
I forget now, are we talking about a diesel truck? If so the little twistable idle booster cable might be enough to hold the idle up to where it'll charge. If not, try a hand throttle cable for such occasions. Some folks use an old bicycle gear change lever. Some buy one built for the purpose (this one clamps to the shifter lever of a Jeep).
http://www.redrock4x4.com/handthrottle.aspx
For anyone following later, I wouldn't have painted the drum. The cable needs to grip the drum as well as transfer heat to it. The paint can only interfere with both.
Nice work bringing the old winch back to proud service again Bram. You really stuck with it through many challenges where others not made of such stern stuff would have pitched it in the trash can and bought something else.
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bram_r
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
@ Chris. Please put me on the mailing list as well, bramree@hotmail.com, thanks!
@ Dave. With an electric winch, an alternator upgrade seems to be more important all of a sudden indeed. I was still planning my elec. fan project, so all of these extra electrical devices call for a little heavier alternator.
It's a 280GE I'm having the Rotzler on, so no idle handthrottle knob on it. I put a piece of wood on the accelarator pedal yesterday which did the trick.
This G will get a diesel in the near future, so that problems will take care of itself! Still wondering what kind of diesel engine I will choose...om617a or something more modern...
Haven't thought about the paint on the drum. After unwinding the cable after the first pull, it had already gripped pretty good and I could see the marks in the paint. I've read you should always leave a like 5 windings on the drum when pulling, I guess it will hold fine for now.
Thanks anyway for the compliments. Always nice to have a project finished. Time to move to the next!
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dentsmithy
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Sep 2007
Location: NFA
Vehicle(s): 1986 230Ge, , 1979 240gd cabrio, AD-SL
Posts: 912
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
`Lets see if this works...... didn't so will email  here is the TUV certificate from the documents to keep your insurance happy.
Edited by dentsmithy 2/7/2011 4:44 AM
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 Rotzler TUV.pdf (63KB - 16 downloads)
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
Great job Bram! |
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hus55
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: north cyprus,lapta.
Vehicle(s): 300GDS, G300 LONG,300GDT CLK55 AMG CAB.
Posts: 2230
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
got them chris, had them binded together like a catalogue.
cheers mate.
rgds hus |
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hus55
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: north cyprus,lapta.
Vehicle(s): 300GDS, G300 LONG,300GDT CLK55 AMG CAB.
Posts: 2230
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
got them chris, had them binded together like a catalogue.
cheers mate.
rgds hus |
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bram_r
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
jeremyw - 2/8/2011 6:01 AM
Great job Bram!
Thanks Jeremy, now mostly working on my 300GD where I want to install an hydraulic winch when the time comes.
I would like to have an old-style winch-activation button on the dash to have it look original, so I'll do some searching on that the following time. Will let you know when I've found something.
On this 1984 280GE where the Rotzler is mounted, the newer style switches are used, and that one was already present.
gr. Bram |
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
bram_r - 2/8/2011 1:08 PM
jeremyw - 2/8/2011 6:01 AM
Great job Bram!
Thanks Jeremy, now mostly working on my 300GD where I want to install an hydraulic winch when the time comes.
I would like to have an old-style winch-activation button on the dash to have it look original, so I'll do some searching on that the following time. Will let you know when I've found something.
On this 1984 280GE where the Rotzler is mounted, the newer style switches are used, and that one was already present.
gr. Bram
Thanks Bram. I was thinking the other night that I haven't been able to find ANYONE with the early style W460 switches and a Rotzler winch switch. How can no one have one??? |
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dentsmithy
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Sep 2007
Location: NFA
Vehicle(s): 1986 230Ge, , 1979 240gd cabrio, AD-SL
Posts: 912
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
Is this any use? http://www.harwin.com/search/C90?ProductSearch=True was looking for something else and saw this - looks like my connector plug and they even do the caps with chain.
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Inkblotz
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo
Posts: 3186
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
Bram do you have this?
Mark
PDF attached
Edited by Inkblotz 3/10/2011 9:11 AM
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Rotzler2.pdf (598KB - 14 downloads)
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hipine
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: US, CO, Bailey
Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
Good info Chris. Since it came up here, this is probably a good place to post some info I shared with Jeremy in an off-list request a little while back.....
If you want to try and find the plug that fits the socket that's on the Rotzler, this one I have has the following numbers on it.
Cast into the cable clamp portion is:
ESC
MS 3057
4A
and printed around the periphery of the knurled portion that locks the plug to the socket is:
VEAM 3406 VG 95234D10SL-3PN
Sorry for the crude picture quality, but you can get the idea and the numbers above will be what you're after anyway. These guys can probably help:
http://www.glenair.com/catalogs/entire_catalog_vg95234.pdf
 (rotzler plug.jpg)
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rotzler plug.jpg (105KB - 0 downloads)
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
Thanks for posting that info Dave.
I heard back from Glenair...they can make the male sockets to order (either solder or crimp style). $100!
Anyone, feel free to PM me for more info, I have the specific p/n's and such. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
hipine - 3/9/2011 11:11 PM
Sorry for the crude picture quality, but you can get the idea and the numbers above will be what you're after anyway.
Wow, that unit looks very familiar!  |
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stevegsmith
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: SF Bay Area, CA USA
Vehicle(s): 82 300GD WVO, 06 Jeep Lib CRD B99
Posts: 1301
| RE: Rotzler rebuild
Someone needs a manicure.
Atrocious! |
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hipine
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: US, CO, Bailey
Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
jeremyw - 3/9/2011 9:19 PM
Anyone, feel free to PM me for more info, I have the specific p/n's and such.
Why not just share here where it's available to all regardless of whether you're available at the time someone comes looking or not? Just a thought.
Will Glenair sell the components without making the assembly? or are special tools required to asssemble? I only found them with a Google search as a possible source. There may be others for sure.
Good luck!
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
I got the info off my work computer;
"The part you want is ITS4106F10SL-3P for crimp termination or ITS3106F10SL-3P for solder termination. Please see catalog PDF attached. This part will give you the clamp, backshell and wire seal grommet and is fully compatible with the VG number that you reference. We can build these up quickly (2 weeks or less)." |
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hipine
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: US, CO, Bailey
Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
Cool! Thanks man. "It takes a village" 
All the best,
-Dave G. |
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jeremyw
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen
Posts: 846
| Re: Rotzler rebuild
Some might say us characters look like the Village People. |
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