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Inkblotz
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo
Posts: 3186
| Smoke-in G500
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DesertStar
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA
Vehicle(s): 85-280GE/95-G320/08-G500
Posts: 2156
| RE: Smoke-in G500
Those wheels sure look hot.:boink: |
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Inkblotz
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo
Posts: 3186
| Re: Smoke-in G500
indeed |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: Smoke-in G500
In Atlanta? Where? Any idea as to the cause? |
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mortinson
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Madrid, España
Vehicle(s): '98 G300TD LWB, '98 E300TD Saloon
Posts: 1355
| RE: Smoke-in G500
DUTCH - 4/3/2011 4:41 PM
In Atlanta? Where? Any idea as to the cause?
By the looks of it it all started with a short circuit in the electrics box on the RHS of the engine bay (LHS as you look at the engine). It is a common fault in older Gs, where the positive mains interfere with the battery box. That is a point I check regularly because it does not seem to be too well isolated. I don't know what could have caused it in a G as new as that (I believe the battery is in the boot). |
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Inkblotz
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo
Posts: 3186
| Re: Smoke-in G500
Sacramento, CA. No idea on the cause but it looks like it started at the fuse box. This is a 2002.
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gisham
Date registered: Oct 2006
Location: Orlando
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 2007 R350 1967 FJ40
| Re: Smoke-in G500
hate to see that... might be a good one to make into a wheeler though... |
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Inkblotz
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo
Posts: 3186
| Re: Smoke-in G500
Goes up for auction tomorrow: http://www.autobidmaster.com/carfinder-online-auto-auctions/lot/151...
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zimm
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Feb 2010
Location: pittsburgh
Vehicle(s): lx470, 76 fj40, 72fj40, 96 gelandewagen g320.
Posts: 788
| RE: Smoke-in G500
hope that doesnt end up on the market fixed. maybe it killed itself over the embarrassing dubs.
any oil cooler lines up there? fan+good oil leak+hot header=flamethrower. i think a double digit number of the original 500 NAS110's died that way. |
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gisham
Date registered: Oct 2006
Location: Orlando
Vehicle(s): 2002 G500 2007 R350 1967 FJ40
| Re: Smoke-in G500
id say if you keep ur eye on fleabay it will pop up in 6 months forsale... write down that vin... |
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Johann
Veteran
Date registered: May 2006
Location: Centurion, South Africa
Vehicle(s): 1999 LWB 290GDT 1981 SWB 240GD+ Cabrio 2015 G63
Posts: 259
| RE: Smoke-in G500
As with all things electrical, it works with smoke.
When the smoke comes out, it stops working : ) |
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NHDave
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2013
Location: Seacoast NH.
Vehicle(s): 2004 AMG
Posts: 465
| Re: Smoke-in G500
I need serious help, FAST?
I've been lurking for some time here, checking out all issues with G's
Recently, I purchased an 04 AMG
I live in NH
We had snow the other day, so we went driving around x-mas shopping. All fine until later in the day. when the ABS stopped working. Seems it began when I went to use the high beams. They went on for a second and then all hell broke loose, "se workshop, check coolant level when hot, check high bean, on and on.
I get it home, shut it down and have three malfunctions displayed in the cluster. One is the common Tele-aid, the others, I didn't have a chance to figure out.
I checked fuses and found a 30 amp (i think socket #27) and a 7.5 amp burnt. Socket #A I replace them, fire up the engine and the fusebox started to smoke!
In a panic, seeing how the battery is out back, I pulled all the fuses around the one I replaced and the 7.5 in socket A
I then ran for the fire extinguisher!!
Holy crap!
Today I removed the negative terminal, then remove as much of the dash in the area as possible, looking for any electronic devise or burnt wire, nothing. Nothing under the driver kick space and nothing looked or smelled funny under the drivers foot well.
I removed the headlamp switch and fully opened it up looking for the smoke source, nothing. There is nothing in that area to check but wires. I put it all back together, with the fuses back in place, reconnect the neg. terminal and within a 30 seconds, more smoke!!
Now I'm freaked out!
I can't even exactly remember what 30 amp fuse was burnt to begin with.
My truck could have looked like this one if I left the shop for a few minutes!
Yikes!
Any help or suggestions are desperately needed???
David
Edited by NHDave 12/17/2013 4:51 PM
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| NHDave
Please complete your My Profile to tell us the year and model of your G, as well as where you're located. That info helps us to get to know and help you better both now and in the future. Thanks.
PS - Your post would receive more attention, if you would have made it a new posting by itself. |
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djdinaz
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Arizona
Vehicle(s): 03 G55
Posts: 439
| Re: Smoke-in G500
30 amp (i think socket #27) and a 7.5 amp burnt. Socket #A
27 Goes to the control unit under the drivers seat. Controls all things seat related along with the steering column memory functions.
The A thru H fuses run along the top of the box (from right to left, A being on the right) You shouldn't have a fuse in the A position, it's for the air circulation pump on a diesel. If it's the B fuse, that's for one of the ABS control module circuits and for the stop light switch -- and it should be 10 amps.
Given that it started with an ABS warning, take a look at that stop lamp switch up on the top of the brake pedal and make sure it's not broken or shorted out somehow.
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NHDave
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2013
Location: Seacoast NH.
Vehicle(s): 2004 AMG
Posts: 465
| Re: Smoke-in G500
Sorry Dutch, I didn't complete my profile and I shall!
But first things first.
I figured out what was the culprit!!
Holy crap, it was the illuminated door sills! The 7.5 amp fuse wouldn't blow and the wires start to cook! Do you believe this? That car in the beginning of this thread didn't have to burn,,,, if only?
OMG, what a damn relief!
Stressed out fot a day and a half!
Thank you all for replying.
David
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AGuess
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Holly Springs NC
Vehicle(s): 93 500GE, 93 500GE, 2002 G500
Posts: 717
| Re: Smoke-in G500
Glad you figured it out. I would also find your fuse chart in the owners manual and compare the amps shown to the actual fuses in the G. I did that on mine when I first got it and found several fuses that were a much higher amp than they should have been.
If the fuses are not correct, they will not blow and your wires will burn and melt.
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Otiswesty
Administrator
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| Re: Smoke-in G500
NHDave - 12/17/2013 4:35 PM
I figured out what was the culprit!!
Holy crap, it was the illuminated door sills!
David
Jeez, to think those stupid illuminated doorsills could ruin a great vehicle.
They don't even look that great with the cutout in the stainless plate.
I'm gettin rid of mine ASAP.
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Titus Pullo
Elite Veteran
Date registered: May 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI.
Posts: 1010
| Re: Smoke-in G500
otiswesty - 12/17/2013 9:25 PM I'm gettin rid of mine ASAP. Eric Eric I would love to have yours, LMK. |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| Re: Smoke-in G500
Titus Pullo - 12/17/2013 6:58 PM otiswesty - 12/17/2013 9:25 PM NHDave - 12/17/2013 4:35 PM I'm gettin rid of mine ASAP. Eric Eric I would love to have yours, LMK. Trolling for some super models, eh? |
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NHDave
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2013
Location: Seacoast NH.
Vehicle(s): 2004 AMG
Posts: 465
| Re: Smoke-in G500
djdinaz - 12/17/2013 6:58 PM
30 amp (i think socket #27) and a 7.5 amp burnt. Socket #A
27 Goes to the control unit under the drivers seat. Controls all things seat related along with the steering column memory functions.
The A thru H fuses run along the top of the box (from right to left, A being on the right ) You shouldn't have a fuse in the A position, it's for the air circulation pump on a diesel. If it's the B fuse, that's for one of the ABS control module circuits and for the stop light switch -- and it should be 10 amps.
Given that it started with an ABS warning, take a look at that stop lamp switch up on the top of the brake pedal and make sure it's not broken or shorted out somehow.
I stand corrected! NOT "Fuse #26 __________#27"
In my haste to discover and share, TYPO! |
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