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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A  | RE: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) koly - 6/28/2011 9:56 AM 115 degrees in Phoenix...wondering how difficult it might be to fit some newer air-cooled/conditioned seats.... Oh Bob, Bob, Bob....how far you've come. Look to our old LR/G friend Tom Sheppard when he dumped his Land Rovers in favor of a 461 G for Sahara travel. There are some words in Quiet For a Tuesday on the subject. He ordered the truck specifically with cloth interior, and without air conditioning for more comfortable hot weather travel. One approach is to take the leather seats, perforate them, add fans, sensors, switches, what have you. The people out to take your money love that approach. Another is to use a well designed cloth seat. Cool in the summer, warm in the winter, and maybe even more durable than leather when made of the right cloth like the old "MB Tex". The only thing I like leather seats for is for the kids. Sounds funny, but sticky spills etc clean up easier from the well-maintained leather than they do from cloth. So the kids booster seats are on leather in the van, but even there, in the places where adults sit the leather is covered with sheepskins. The sheepskin covers work well all around if you don't want to change the whole seat, or ever have to worry about which compnent is going to fail next. I was going to keep my mouth shut and let you try and stay your course, but if folks feel that use of directional signals is in scope, I figured making a plug for KISS with sheepskins or cloth might be okay.  Calling for 102 in Denver today and I'm on the bike in full Aerostich gear. No problem with good simple, effective design. All the best, -Dave G. | |
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| norsecarnut Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1 Posts: 305  | ||
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| koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823  | RE: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) hipine - 6/29/2011 1:12 PM koly - 6/28/2011 9:56 AM 115 degrees in Phoenix...wondering how difficult it might be to fit some newer air-cooled/conditioned seats.... Oh Bob, Bob, Bob....how far you've come. Hey, once you get a sip of the "G"ood life, what can you do?  Look to our old LR/G friend Tom Sheppard when he dumped his Land Rovers in favor of a 461 G for Sahara travel. There are some words in Quiet For a Tuesday on the subject. He ordered the truck specifically with cloth interior, and without air conditioning for more comfortable hot weather travel. Didn't he also order it with a white exterior and a light colored interior? With my means, I didn't have the luxury of a custom order and had to settle for my black-on-black G from a divorcee's fire sale  One approach is to take the leather seats, perforate them, add fans, sensors, switches, what have you. The people out to take your money love that approach. Looking at the aforelinked seatcomfortkit, it looks like something I might be willing to tackle on my own (or even mfg my own version, judging from their pics), or bring to a local upholstery shop. That way I'd get to keep the stock seats and maybe have a comfortable bum instead of a sweat-drenched back and tuckus. Your sheep skin /cloth cover is duly noted as a default KISS fall-back position.  | |
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) Hell man, for corking a couple muffin fans into the foam, I'm closer to there than you with the cloth seat covers on the old 460. My driver's seat foam needs re-doing....What hath thou wrought, oh denizen of the desert? With the predominance of Mexican cuizine in your area (and mine too!) we may indeed have more use than most for "active ventilation" in seat cushions! -Dave G. PS - though the aplication referenced above may call for certified explosion proof motor enclosures. Edited by hipine 6/30/2011 3:04 PM | |
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| Jonathan Joseph Expert Date registered: Oct 2006 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Vehicle(s): 2004 G55 Posts: 1538  | ||
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| norsecarnut Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1 Posts: 305 | Re: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) ^ could just move. the carolinas are brutal in the summer. my weather today...? I'm going to go grab a long sleeve shirt or jacket before I go out to do some errands | |
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| stevegsmith Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SF Bay Area, CA USA Vehicle(s): 82 300GD WVO, 06 Jeep Lib CRD B99 Posts: 1301 | ||
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| koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823 | ||
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| koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823 | RE: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) hipine - 6/30/2011 1:03 PM Hell man, for corking a couple muffin fans into the foam, I'm closer to there than you with the cloth seat covers on the old 460. My driver's seat foam needs re-doing.... I say give it a shot - test it out with the old foam before replacing it! And please, provide us with one of your great write-ups if you do. What hath thou wrought, oh denizen of the desert? With the predominance of Mexican cuizine in your area (and mine too!) we may indeed have more use than most for "active ventilation" in seat cushions! For that kind of active ventilation to be sufficient, you need the infamous 4-65* *4 windows rolled down at 65mph. | |
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| koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823 | ||
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| hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | ||
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| koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823 | Re: Seat questions - (retrofit air-cooled version?) I know of a local shop in Phx that received a good review from another MB owner who had them install air cooled seats. I don't have their info right now, but I'll post it this week. Luckily this summer hasn't been too bad heat-wise (yet)... I still haven't done it but am still planning to - had to repair my G's AC last summer which used up the seat-cooling budget dollars. | |
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