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Posted 8/24/2011 10:46 PM
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Rubber fender flares?

I've searched a bit - not exhaustive at this stage - for some replacement rubber (or something pliable) fender flares. The stock/existing ones are fiberglass and are cracked and broken. I _could_ fix the fiberglass but I would rather get something that could take some abuse.

I got a little over confident at Northwest mogfest last weekend and smashed the bumper into both left and right flares. I don't care about the bumper but the shattered flares make the G look like a warrant wagon.
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Posted 8/24/2011 11:43 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

Stock flare should be made of very flexible plastics, ABS.
I would suggest you to get used stock ones as they are very strong but still absorbs many abuse without cracks.
If you dont care about the detail, you can use TJ rear flare for both front and rear with some cutting. Fender arch is very close to that of G.
Yasu
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Posted 8/25/2011 10:27 AM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

diehardg - 8/24/2011 8:43 PM

Stock flare should be made of very flexible plastics, ABS.
I would suggest you to get used stock ones as they are very strong but still absorbs many abuse without cracks.
If you dont care about the detail, you can use TJ rear flare for both front and rear with some cutting. Fender arch is very close to that of G.
Yasu


Yasu,

some of the W460's were fitted with the fiberglass fender flares, while later models have the more pliable ABS flares.

Not sure what year the change was made, maybe a real W460 head will chime in.

I had gotten one of those W460 ABS flare some time ago, and was hoping to use it on my W463. It looks very similar to the W463 ones but the cut-out at the ends were a bit different.

Still have that thing laying around.....right rear....

Karl
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Posted 8/25/2011 12:09 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

I gave the rubber fenders a try, and to put it in a few words...it was a 300$ waste of money.
Not that it doesn't work, but i just wasn't happy with the looks.

If you google "rubber fender flares" you'll find a few models. The one I used doesn't come up, and I can't find the link...but I'll post pictures later.

There are 2 main "problems".
1. They don't like sharp bends
2. They didn't come down far enough and too much gap was visible...including all the mounting hardware (even though this might be different with another model)

Obviously, if you're not very picky about the looks, they'll work great.

I still have one on my car. I will post a pic hopefully later today.
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Posted 8/25/2011 12:30 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

Stock flares are abs and are flexible. Only Orc flares are
Fiberglass. I don't know why your stock flares
are hard and cracked

See my posting for narrow and wide flares
Money will be the only thing that stops u.
Best value for $$$ are the Borbet.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2407
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Posted 8/25/2011 2:08 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

autonovice - 8/25/2011 9:30 AM
I don't know why your stock flares are hard and cracked

Best value for $$$ are the Borbet.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2407


They're cracked because I was being an idiot and didn't realize how deep the hole I was driving into was and how far the front end was going to dip.
I was doing this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSk8H6-aWM
(the girlfriend is driving)
This was shot after all the VW Syncro's had 'smoothed' out the course - I was one of the first few vehicles to go through after the trac-hoe had dug out the course and I paid the price.

The Borbets sound good but got any leads where they can be purchased? I don't see anything online except for the wheels...
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Posted 8/25/2011 2:14 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

autonovice - 8/25/2011 12:30 PM

Stock flares are abs and are flexible. Only Orc flares are
Fiberglass. I don't know why your stock flares
are hard and cracked

See my posting for narrow and wide flares
Money will be the only thing that stops u.
Best value for $$$ are the Borbet.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2407


Never heard and never seen borbets fenderflares in ABS.
Whare have you seen this

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Posted 8/25/2011 2:44 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

i see the borbets on 460s a lot. See the yellow G from the posting. It has borbets on. They are squarish, beefier than the MB ones.

These were made so they can sell their wheels which are ET33 to satify german law ...
can't have tires outside the flares.

I only saw ORC flares in fiberglass (or GFK).
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Posted 8/25/2011 2:56 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

or_550i - 8/25/2011 11:08 AM

autonovice - 8/25/2011 9:30 AM
I don't know why your stock flares are hard and cracked

Best value for $$$ are the Borbet.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2407


They're cracked because I was being an idiot and didn't realize how deep the hole I was driving into was and how far the front end was going to dip.
I was doing this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSk8H6-aWM
(the girlfriend is driving)
This was shot after all the VW Syncro's had 'smoothed' out the course - I was one of the first few vehicles to go through after the trac-hoe had dug out the course and I paid the price.

The Borbets sound good but got any leads where they can be purchased? I don't see anything online except for the wheels...


This is the only place i see .... U can enquire about used one also ... but shipping is the same from across the pond
check w ur local suppliers also.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-GE-GD-W460-PU-Kotflugelverbreite...

If you change to 463 style front fenders, you can use these ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-AMG-G55K-Kotflugelverbreiterunge...
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Posted 8/25/2011 3:18 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

autonovice - 8/25/2011 11:56 AM

This is the only place i see .... U can enquire about used one also ... but shipping is the same from across the pond
check w ur local suppliers also.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-GE-GD-W460-PU-Kotflugelverbreiterung-NEU-/260835606538?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item3cbb03800a#ht_500wt_823

If you change to 463 style front fenders, you can use these ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-AMG-G55K-Kotflugelverbreiterungen-W463-black-/250878012151?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item3a697eaaf7#ht_500wt_823




Wow. Ok. Thank you! Guess I'll be repairing the fiberglass.

Edited by or_550i 8/25/2011 3:28 PM
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Posted 8/25/2011 3:28 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

or_550i - 8/25/2011 11:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSk8H6-aWM
(the girlfriend is driving)

Props to your girlfriend for driving. I haven't met a girl yet that would even stay in the car through something like that, nevermind actually driving the G!




Wow, that ebay store is not cheap. Do they realize that these days you can get a whole truck for the price they ask for some of these parts?

Edited by Razon 8/25/2011 3:29 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

Razon - 8/25/2011 12:28 PM

or_550i - 8/25/2011 11:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSk8H6-aWM
(the girlfriend is driving)

Props to your girlfriend for driving. I haven't met a girl yet that would even stay in the car through something like that, nevermind actually driving the G!




Wow, that ebay store is not cheap. Do they realize that these days you can get a whole truck for the price they ask for some of these parts?


I'll pass the comment along. I know she'll like it. I should have taken pictures when she was driving the Unimogs. She spent a lot of time in a LR 88 when she was a kid so she's more used to it than me!
Those flares are expensive. I'm going to try to fix the fiberglass ones first or at least until something cheaper comes along.
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Posted 8/25/2011 4:13 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

Do you mean those fender flares?

autonovice - 8/25/2011 2:56 PM

or_550i - 8/25/2011 11:08 AM

autonovice - 8/25/2011 9:30 AM
I don't know why your stock flares are hard and cracked

Best value for $$$ are the Borbet.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2407


They're cracked because I was being an idiot and didn't realize how deep the hole I was driving into was and how far the front end was going to dip.
I was doing this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSk8H6-aWM
(the girlfriend is driving)
This was shot after all the VW Syncro's had 'smoothed' out the course - I was one of the first few vehicles to go through after the trac-hoe had dug out the course and I paid the price.

The Borbets sound good but got any leads where they can be purchased? I don't see anything online except for the wheels...


This is the only place i see .... U can enquire about used one also ... but shipping is the same from across the pond
check w ur local suppliers also.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-GE-GD-W460-PU-Kotflugelverbreite...

If you change to 463 style front fenders, you can use these ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-G-AMG-G55K-Kotflugelverbreiterunge...



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Posted 8/25/2011 5:09 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

brabus g36 - 8/25/2011 1:13 PM

Do you mean those fender flares?


I dunno. Those look smaller to me.

These:
DSCN4330
DSCN4327
DSCN4328

Edited by or_550i 8/25/2011 5:11 PM
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Posted 8/25/2011 5:13 PM
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

btw...if you ever get new fender flares, I'm interested in those broken ones for a decent price. (on my truck I trim them anyway, and I don't use the part that's broken on yours)
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Re: Rubber fender flares?

sorry I didn't know some of 460 come with fiberglass fenderflares.
My friends' 89 280GE come with ABS.

Easy fix will be just cutting the broken portion.
The function of broken portion is to keep splash away from windshield when you drive through water at high speed.

Yasu
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Posted 8/26/2011 12:45 AM
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diehardg - 8/25/2011 6:41 PM

sorry I didn't know some of 460 come with fiberglass fenderflares.
My friends' 89 280GE come with ABS.

Easy fix will be just cutting the broken portion.
The function of broken portion is to keep splash away from windshield when you drive through water at high speed.

Yasu

No worries. After some of the oddball crap on this thing I wouldn't have been surprised if they weren't stock. Thanks for your input!
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RE: Rubber fender flares?

I believe ABS flares were used from 1986 on.  My 1985 has fiberglass and I did something stupid awhile ago and had to repair it.  I thought of changing to the ABS, but they do not match the fiberglass bumper endcaps as they are not as wide as the original fiberglass flares.  To change all and make stock looking would require bumper endcaps and the flares.

My fix is to be more careful, but now knowing how easy it is to fix fiberglass, it really isn't so bad.

Mike





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RE: Rubber fender flares?

'86 model year here with fiberglass flares.
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Nice job Mike.
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