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norsecarnut Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1 Posts: 305 | at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver It has returned to North America WITH an included factory receiver. Maybe this is old news or boring news but I thought it was at least worth noting. | ||
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mb230s Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SWFL Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Really? Has anybody seen this in person? The literature and web has been wrong for years on this topic. | ||
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Adoni Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4 Posts: 1283 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Checked MBUSA today. It's somewhat vague. Both the G550 and G63 list a tow rating of 7500 lbs. with the "factory trailer stability assist" and an "approved aftermarket hitch". Soooo, it sounds like now you buy your hitch from the dealer when you buy your car. I wonder if the "approved aftermarket hitch" is only available from the $dealer$ the way the 6 disc CD changer used to be back in the day due to the "proprietary" wiring harness? | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Adoni - 8/20/2012 1:01 PM Checked MBUSA today. It's somewhat vague. Both the G550 and G63 list a tow rating of 7500 lbs. with the "factory trailer stability assist" and an "approved aftermarket hitch". Soooo, it sounds like now you buy your hitch from the dealer when you buy your car. I wonder if the "approved aftermarket hitch" is only available from the $dealer$ the way the 6 disc CD changer used to be back in the day due to the "proprietary" wiring harness? Definitely no trailer hitch provision on a 2012 G-550. Just the large fuel tank protection plate behind the rear bumper. Completely different factory steel mountings (some for the tank plate) attached to the rear frame tube, than what are we used to see on our G-500's. The wiring harness for the G-500 trailer hitch was also proprietary by Oris, never was a MB part. It was only available together with the hitch, but sold by MB dealers. I will be visiting the Geländewagenzentrum in Hamburg this week and might get some more info there Karl (IMG_2847.JPG) (IMG_2849.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_2847.JPG (104KB - 1 downloads) IMG_2849.JPG (102KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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03-Gwagen Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Western Pennsylvania Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d Posts: 888 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver I saw the 2013 G63 last week at the dealer. Factory installed hitch was included at no additional charge. The 2013 G63 is beautiful inside and out. | ||
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Adoni Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4 Posts: 1283 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Karl, The information was for the 2013 G Class. Perhaps in a rare moment of weakness, MBUSA caved to popular demand with regards to a desired feature on the G class in the US and redesigned the rear area to accommodate the hitch? It appears they have also upped the color options back to 12 from the previous 4-5 which I believe were available last year. Per MBUSA site: Trailer Stability Assist With a generous 7,500-lb towing capacity when outfitted with an approved aftermarket hitch, the G-Class pulls a trailer with confidence. Whenever you're towing, standard Trailer Stability Assist acts decisively to help rein in trailer sway by strategically applying the front brakes of the G-Class, helping you keep your worries behind you. Disclaimer: Edited by Adoni 8/20/2012 11:04 PM | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver 03-Gwagen - 8/20/2012 7:57 PM I saw the 2013 G63 last week at the dealer. Factory installed hitch was included at no additional charge. The 2013 G63 is beautiful inside and out. Did you get a close look or even pictures from the hitch receiver? I wonder if a retro fit for the earlier G550 is possible. Karl | ||
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norsecarnut Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1 Posts: 305 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver fernweh - 8/20/2012 9:18 PM 03-Gwagen - 8/20/2012 7:57 PM I saw the 2013 G63 last week at the dealer. Factory installed hitch was included at no additional charge. The 2013 G63 is beautiful inside and out. Did you get a close look or even pictures from the hitch receiver? I wonder if a retro fit for the earlier G550 is possible. Karl I should have said I saw it on a local dealer G63. I don't think there is any reason why the stuff wouldn't retrofit but it would still of course require welding because 09-12 G did not have the plate welded to the cylindrical frame cross tube. As I'm sure you are aware. Seems to me the retro-fit is really just the act of welding onto that cross member. After that, all the basic parts would bolt on and one would think, the way these vehicles are nearly identically structured, the new altered tank cover/hitch allowance could be ordered and also bolted on to 09-12 models. Although cutting the tank cover is what the Renntech notes suggest with it's hitch kit. | ||
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norsecarnut Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle(s): 07 Rover LR3, 08 Audi S4Avant,04 Disco2,96 Disco1 Posts: 305 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver mb230s - 8/20/2012 12:01 PM Really? Has anybody seen this in person? The literature and web has been wrong for years on this topic. I meant to say I saw it. Yes, very "really" and about time! The overall literature is pretty mixed up in other areas too. I read some confusing stuff about the number of actual air bags and locations of "protection" To my knowledge, it still only has one front bag per front seat and a side curtain which runs from front seats through 2nd row. It may also run further into the 3rd row/cargo area. But no mention is ever made saying a "side" or "bolster" or "torso" air bag. The literature however does state "8 way protection" but also "4 air bags". It is interesting considering some other models, similar in price range, have many more safety protections - or so it appears. For instance the Range Rover has of course both frontal and side/torso for both front people, plus window curtain, plus knee for driver. I wish there were crash tests performed for the G. I'd like to see how it does in the comparisons just from a purely intellectual point of view. I saw an amazing upside down drop/spin of a Volvo 70 wagon, maybe an xc70, to mimic a bad air born roller over/flip. Dropped it while spinning it to land right on the A pillar and it barely cracked the windshield. Cool to watch on video. Almost as fun as watching the Smart car vs C or E class sedan test. Bad day for smart car with it resembling one of those rides at a county fair like the "octopus" spinning you into the air while rising up from the ground. | ||
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03-Gwagen Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Western Pennsylvania Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d Posts: 888 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Did you get a close look or even pictures from the hitch receiver? I wonder if a retro fit for the earlier G550 is possible. Karl I didn't look that close to it but I did notice the electrical harness receiver was not vertical - which I thought was odd. I'll ask the dealer if they will email me some pics. Edited by 03-Gwagen 8/21/2012 9:03 AM | ||
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03-Gwagen Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Western Pennsylvania Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d Posts: 888 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Dealer just emailed me the G, was sold yesterday. So no pics... | ||
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mb230s Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SWFL Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Nice....good to have the hitch back. This was one of the major reasons I didn't get another G after deciding it was time to dump my 02. Now give me a diesel and I'm back in the fold. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver mb230s - 8/21/2012 4:37 PM Nice....good to have the hitch back. This was one of the major reasons I didn't get another G after deciding it was time to dump my 02. Now give me a diesel and I'm back in the fold. Don't hold your breath on that last one. | ||
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oskar Elite Veteran Date registered: Sep 2006 Location: Lyons, CO Vehicle(s): 1981 280GE, 2002 G500, 280SE 4.5, Audi A4 1.8T Posts: 708 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver fernweh - 8/20/2012 6:24 PM The wiring harness for the G-500 trailer hitch was also proprietary by Oris, never was a MB part. It was only available together with the hitch, but sold by MB dealers. Karl I had a electrical issue, wanted to buy the special flasher relay for trailer and the other black box ... could only get the relay Oskar | ||
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mb230s Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SWFL Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver Definitely not holding my breath. I think it was 3 years ago this month I dumped the G500. On my 3rd daily driver since. Didn't care for the first 2. Really digging #3. We'll see how the winter goes but thus far I'm not missing having an SUV. My fondness for the G may fade over time if MBUSA won't offer the model I want. DUTCH - 8/21/2012 4:09 PM mb230s - 8/21/2012 4:37 PM Nice....good to have the hitch back. This was one of the major reasons I didn't get another G after deciding it was time to dump my 02. Now give me a diesel and I'm back in the fold. Don't hold your breath on that last one. | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver I have visited the Gelaendewagen Center in Hamburg Germany to get a closer look at the 2013 model line up. The following models are available for the German buyer: G Class Stationwagen (LWB) G350 Bluetec Diesel G Class Stationwagen (LWB) G500 G Class Cabriolet (SWB) G500 G Class (LWB) G63 AMG G Class (LWB) G65 AMG All those vehicles have the trailer hitch mounting provisions and all models on display had a German type Oris trailer hitch installed. Not sure if those provisions are identical for most parts compared to those found on the 2002 to 2008 models. I did notice the rear frame horns with the welded on tow loops on all 2013 models and the attachment points for the inner bumper brackets as we have known from our earlier G-wagen. The fuel tank protection plate and its mounting is different now from our earlier models, different also from the MBUSA G550 - not as large but obviously much more refined and nicely (more professional) shaped. This protection plate allows full access to the rear bumper and the trailer hitch provisions on the rear most frame tube. Pictures will follow as soon as I find (or buy again) my mini USB cable Karl | ||
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mb230s Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: SWFL Vehicle(s): G-less for now, vintage MBs, FJ40 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver The Euro models may not match what will be offered in the USA in this area. Rear impact regulations specific to USA were the reason for the change and elimination of the hitch in 2009 on these shores. Never went away in ROW. | ||
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jimmy Regular Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Vehicle(s): 2013 G 63 AMG Posts: 64 | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver fernweh - 8/29/2012 7:29 AM I have visited the Gelaendewagen Center in Hamburg Germany Hi Karl, where exactly was this in Hamburg? I'll be there next week. | ||
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fernweh Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa | Re: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver jimmy - 8/31/2012 11:33 PM fernweh - 8/29/2012 7:29 AM I have visited the Gelaendewagen Center in Hamburg Germany Hi Karl, where exactly was this in Hamburg? I'll be there next week. Jimmy, Gelaendewagen Center Kollaustr. 171 22453 Hamburg (IMG_2978.jpg) (IMG_2983.jpg) (IMG_2984.jpg) (IMG_2971.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_2978.jpg (62KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2983.jpg (122KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2984.jpg (82KB - 0 downloads) IMG_2971.jpg (117KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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JoeM Member Date registered: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle Vehicle(s): '03 G55, '67 LR 109"sw, '68 Travelall Posts: 28 | RE: at least one useful G63 improvement - factory towing receiver MBUSA model (Sept 18 2012 101.jpg) (Sept 18 2012 103.jpg) (Sept 18 2012 098.jpg) (Sept 18 2012 097.jpg) (Sept 18 2012 096.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Sept 18 2012 101.jpg (56KB - 0 downloads) Sept 18 2012 103.jpg (54KB - 0 downloads) Sept 18 2012 098.jpg (42KB - 0 downloads) Sept 18 2012 097.jpg (44KB - 0 downloads) Sept 18 2012 096.jpg (42KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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