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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! First off I have to give credit where credit is due. Robert(Oilworker) first turned me on to these Nolden bi-LED's after he fitted them to his Defender; A few night time pics... Edited by jeremyw 9/6/2013 1:57 AM | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Contact information for this top worldwide distributor? Thanks. | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Interesting write up. Thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough job for us! -Dave G. | ||
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brabus g36 Elite Veteran Date registered: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Vehicle(s): 89 230GE cabrio, 88 280GE LWB, 87 300GD pickup Posts: 608 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Can they be installed in the 460? Could you tell us how much they cost? thanks | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Not German These lights are made in Taiwan by MicroLight Auto Parts Mfg. Co. Ltd. | ||
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drey Extreme Veteran Date registered: Sep 2012 Location: Scottsdale AZ Vehicle(s): 04 G500 Posts: 364 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Those look great. Hard to believe you forgot to let us know how we can get a set. | ||
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Otiswesty Administrator Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213 Posts: 3005 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! The Europa trucks use a Hella 7" bucket that holds the standard 7" incandescent or halogen light. This headlight bucket is also commonly found in Porsche and VW applications and can be fitted to MBUSA 463 as well as any 460 series Gwagens http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info... Edited by otiswesty 9/6/2013 7:18 PM | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! You're very welcome for the write-up guys. Still need to confirm W460 fitment--I know the W460 and Europa463 have the same headlight bucket--I'll probably end up putting one of mine into Tony's W460 SWB to confirm fitment. That'll be easiest. Still working on pricing for the G sets...probably will be in the $600'ish/set range + shipping. The Taiwanese make some high quality components! And service is top notch too. Other specs for the light geeks, which I forgot to add initially; Lumen output LowBeam: 1,532.3 lm Lumen Output Highbeam: 1,666.5 lm Technische Daten/Technical Data! ! Wert/Value Einheit/Unit Beschreibung/Description! Modellbezeichnung/Product Code 7“ Bi-LED Head Light Abmessungen/Dimension 177 X 152 mm Anzahl LEDs u. Typ/Quantity of LEDs and Typ 5 St/pc Osram Automotive Leistung/Power (LowBeam/HighBeam) 32/39 W Spannung/Voltage 9-32 Volt Lumen/Lumens (LowBeam/HighBeam) 1880lm / 2400lm (calculated) ~1550lm/~1700lm (measured) Stromaufnahme/Consumption 0.07/2.1/2.7A@12V PO/LB/HB; 0.04/1.05/1.35A@24V PO/LB/HB Lichtkennzahl/reference number 20 Fixings PAR56 can replace common 7“ Sealed Beam Gewicht/Weight 1170 Gramm Zulassung/Homologation ECE, SAE auf Anfrage/on request Temperaturbereich/Operation range -40 - +80 °c Material Gehäuse/Material Housing ADC Material Lichtscheibe/Material Front Lens PC hard coated Umwelt Standard/Environment Standard SAE 2139 ESD Protection ISO 10605 Level 4 Schutzklasse/ IP Class 6K9K Stecker/Connector H4 Headlight Tyco Superseal PO Edited by jeremyw 9/6/2013 10:33 PM | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! So you plan to sell them? If that be the case, this thread needs to go in the For Sale Forum; and folks need to understand clearly the reason for the review of the product. | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! DUTCH - 9/6/2013 7:43 PM So you plan to sell them? If that be the case, this thread needs to go in the For Sale Forum; and folks need to understand clearly the reason for the review of the product. I appear to be the first G owner in the USA(maybe the world?, I'm not certain of that) to test these for them so I've asked them what kind of quantities/prices the G community could expect. From their pricing I've seen, they're a lot less $$$ than MBUSA wants for the xenon's! | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! I see them here pricy as hell: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NCC-Nolden-Full-LED-Headlights-7-177mm-Merc... | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Wowzers, that is charging a HUGE premium. They're probably looking for the uber wealthy people who pee money. But wait, they include free s/h. Edited by jeremyw 9/7/2013 12:20 PM | ||
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jd1234 Member Date registered: Dec 2012 Location: New York, NY Vehicle(s): 2003 g55 Posts: 31 | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! I know this post is more about a review of these LEDs, but figured I would give my input about recent lights I installed. I have the eBay $430 fishcake xenon ones and I must say they are really good. Best lighting output I have had on any car. The other day the passenger in my car even commented about them. The output is in a diamond shape (not sure if that is good or bad but I love them) Setup was really easy. Everything was plug and play and I never had any errors come up. Worth taking a look and saving some money. I have nothing to do w the seller and I don't receive any benefit from this posting. | ||
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H1LM002G55 Expert Date registered: Mar 2010 Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1 Posts: 1796 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! To me, the beam pattern does not look superior to the Speaker LED headlamps. | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! jd1234 - 9/13/2013 7:31 AM I know this post is more about a review of these LEDs, but figured I would give my input about recent lights I installed. I have the eBay $430 fishcake xenon ones and I must say they are really good. Best lighting output I have had on any car. The other day the passenger in my car even commented about them. The output is in a diamond shape (not sure if that is good or bad but I love them) Setup was really easy. Everything was plug and play and I never had any errors come up. Worth taking a look and saving some money. I have nothing to do w the seller and I don't receive any benefit from this posting. Pics? | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! H1LM002G55 - 9/13/2013 8:51 AM To me, the beam pattern does not look superior to the Speaker LED headlamps. To each their own. From the Speaker vs Trucklite reviews w/ pics I had seen on one of the Jeep forums, I thought neither had overly stellar beam patterns--but maybe that was an old Speaker housing. In all honesty, I don't think any of these are going to match the engineering behind OEM LED's like Audi for example. Yes, Nolden's are manufactured by one of the big LED manufacturers in the world, but I'd guess that Audi still dumps more money into LED technology. I've been very pleased so far with the lighting output and cutoff patterns...and I myself prefer the aesthetic look of the Nolden's vs the Speaker's, they look more OEM-esque to me, which is why I gave the Nolden's a try. | ||
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thebigblue Date registered: Jan 2012 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! German dealer: http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/catalog/details?sessid=tRkH8lavMWQ... | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | RE: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! Yikes, $765/each! Just a heads up for those W460 owners inquiring if they fit W460; I'm getting a W460 headlight bucket from another G owner in the next day or so and will be fitting my lamp to it, so I'll have info on the W460 headlight fitment next week. FYI, in talking to Nolden about the new black coating option, it's a very special coating and they have to order them by huge batches(100 sets at a time), so the black coating is not readily available. Edited by jeremyw 9/19/2013 12:30 AM | ||
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olasdeplata Extreme Veteran Date registered: Sep 2006 Location: At the Beach in Hatteras Vehicle(s): 280GE convertible 84, 300E 89 Posts: 396 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! For 460s, considering the prices of these headlamps, does it not make more sense to get two Hella H4 buckets and use a xenon conversion kit? Such a change can be done for less than $200... I am sure these lights are awesome, but is it worth the money for the incremental light over a xenon kit? BTW, I am tired of my old 460 DOT lights... compared with headlights in newer cars, they are pretty unsafe. | ||
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jeremyw Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Portland, OR Vehicle(s): '03 G500 O'erlanderwagen Posts: 846 | Re: Nolden 7" round Bi-LED headlight review! olasdeplata - 9/18/2013 10:54 PM For 460s, considering the prices of these headlamps, does it not make more sense to get two Hella H4 buckets and use a xenon conversion kit? Such a change can be done for less than $200... I am sure these lights are awesome, but is it worth the money for the incremental light over a xenon kit? BTW, I am tired of my old 460 DOT lights... compared with headlights in newer cars, they are pretty unsafe. Always give and takes with modifications...I was thinking about adding in an aftermarket xenon/HID kit to my factory ZKW lights, but the issue is that often the xenon's won't fire off, or they'll flicker on/off, so you have to turn your headlights off and then back on in hopes of the light coming alive. Sure, the DDM Tuning HID kits are like $30/ea kit, but IMHO they appear to be made in such great volume that I'm not sure of their long-term reliability. If it fails, you get a new one for pennies. But, to wire it in cleanly and meticulously would take hours--then if you have to replace it when it fails, it's hours again. And where to mount the ballast where it's easily accessible yet will stay put? So I shy'd away from the xenon kit myself due to the potential failure/hassle. That being said, could an LED lamp fail and leave you without headlights as well? Yes. No doubt the old halogen's are the lowest cost option, and easily field fixable if a bulb fails...but the light output is dimmer and old technology. Again, pluses and minuses to all the options IMHO. | ||
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