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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659  | Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel I recently bought a Schmude snorkel for 460/461 type G on http://www.schmude-hardtop.de/index.php?article_id=57&page=2. Because of the lines and angles of this snorkel which follow the G-wagen lines, I prefer this type of snorkel on 460 G wagens. Kind of reminds me to Unimog type snorkels which I like as well. See below for some pictures, measurements and installation of this snorkel which I did last weekend. Compleet kit consists of snorkel, Mann top-hat, A-pillar bracket, rubber flexibel hose and some mounting hardware: The snorkel got a 80mm connection at the bottom for the rubber hose. But as this small pipe goes through the fender under an angle, you'll need a stretched hole in the fender to clear this 80mm pipe. The snorkel is attached to the fender by some screws of rivets and a long bolt. On the A-pillar a bracket is mounted with screws or rivets. On this bracket a rubber damper is mounted on which the snorkel gets screwed in to. I made the following notes and measurements: A-pillar bracket:  ] I used the holes in the bracket to mark the holes for drilling:  ] With door closed:  ] Snorkel is mounted on this rubber damper:  ] Then some measurements for the right hand fender: The top of the rubber bumper on the fender is the base for the vertical dimensions. The point where the rear edge of the fender crosses the top of the rubber bumper is where the horizontal measurements are referred from:  ] I used a 86mm hole-saw for cutting this stretched hole. You basicly have to cut two holes, which overlap. By inserting the hole-saw under an angle in the fender, you can first cut the left hand of the stretched hole, and then the right side. Don't cut too much with the first hole, otherwise you won't have any material in the fender left to center the hole-saw and cut the second hole. I used an electrical file to smooth all the edges and remove the material that remained and cutting the two circles. Work carefully and slow and it will be alright on the first attempt. (I also made a template for it for in case I need to install another snorkel some day):  ]  ] When all holes are cut and drilled, this is how it will look:  ] Since the holes for the screws go throug the snorkel, some sealant is needed to prevent water entering the snorkel through these bolt-holes. Use some sealant under the screws as well. Because I have an 290GTD air filter and a watercooled intercooled, my connection from air-cleaner to snorkel needs to be adapted. I have to think what is best solution. From Schmude I received some pictures how the installation of the rubber hose should be routed when you'd have a standard 460 or 461 (no 290TD). Normaly, you'd cut an extra hole is the inner fender in front of the air cleaner. The sharp edge is rounded off by using the protective rubber. On the air cleaner the aluminum tube is mounted with screws. Use some sealant here as well. The suction tube of the air cleaner may need to be shortened, couldn't check this. Then the rubber hose is mounted by using the hose clamps on both snorkel and air cleaner side. The hose in the pictures looks a bit weak, the rubber hose I got with the kit is a nice heavy quality rubber hose.  ]  ]  ]  ] When everything is finished, the finished result should look like this:  ]  ]  ]  ] Happy with the looks and result! gr. Bram | |
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A  | ||
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| Boy G Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Bushveld, South Africa Vehicle(s): Diesel G's: 617A and 602 Posts: 1683 | ||
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| kashi123 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK, Netherlands Vehicle(s): Mercedes 300GD OM606A Pickup; Mercedes 300GD Posts: 168  | Re: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel Boy G - 10/1/2013 8:28 PM Dankie Bram, I have similar plans for my 460. I am wondering if the whole air cleaner may not be rotated to face back and minimise the long pipe under the fender? Hi Andrew, Is this what you mean? (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ----------------  image.jpg (130KB - 3 downloads) image.jpg (116KB - 6 downloads) | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | Re: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel Hey thanks, I can try this one of these days. What kind of mega-Phone you have hiding on your firewall  For car-alarm..? | |
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| kashi123 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK, Netherlands Vehicle(s): Mercedes 300GD OM606A Pickup; Mercedes 300GD Posts: 168 | ||
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| Boy G Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Bushveld, South Africa Vehicle(s): Diesel G's: 617A and 602 Posts: 1683 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel I've looked at my current air filter set-up and contemplated a bit about reversing it. Came quite quickly to the conclusion that with filter housing, things aren't going to be improved a lot by reversing it. Set up is situated as seen in following pictures:  ]  ] So inlet and outlet parallel next to each other. The airflow needs to run approximately like this:  ] What would be the best type of filter to use to get a decent installation? Any suggestions on G type filters or after market, like MANN..? Of course, with the use of a direct 90 degree bend on the inlet of the air filter housing, I think I can make a set-up which uses the rubber hose in the fender as standard used by Schmude. For that I can use the Original 90 degree bend which comes on the 290GDT set-up.  ] gr. Bram Edited by bram_r 10/14/2013 8:10 PM | |
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| Boy G Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Bushveld, South Africa Vehicle(s): Diesel G's: 617A and 602 Posts: 1683 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | Re: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel Today I went ahead with the installation of the hose between air filter and snorkel. Because I've got the 290GDT air filter and the intercooler on the inner fender, my installation differs from the standard Schmude routing. I was a little afraid I wasn't able to install the hose in the tight space and tight turns, but it worked out okay. Hose has metal reinforcement, preventing it from kinking:  ] Hose therefor can make very tight bends without kinking:  ] Made a hole in the inner fender and put the protection on the edge to prevent shaving problems, this piece is in the Schmude kit:  ]  ] Installed the hose and connected it to the air filter  ]  ]  ] Connection the snorkel:  ] Need to mount the hose on some points to prevent is from sagging between snorkel and hole in the inner fender. Will see what I can come up with. Bought some 80mmrain gutter clamps to what I can do with that. Will update later.  ] gr. Bram | |
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | RE: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel Thanks to my neighbour I got hold of some nice hose clamps suitable for the intake hose diameter. These got some nice rubber insert and also a mounting position for 8mm bolts. So I postioned the clamps a bit and drilled some 8mm holes in the inner fender. See pics for result. It is positioned nice, high and tight against the upper wheelwell.  ]  ]  ] Gr. Bram Edited by bram_r 6/14/2014 5:28 PM | |
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| olasdeplata Extreme Veteran Date registered: Sep 2006 Location: At the Beach in Hatteras Vehicle(s): 280GE convertible 84, 300E 89 Posts: 396  | ||
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| RE: Installation Schmude 460/461 snorkel bram_r - 6/14/2014 3:26 PM Thanks to my neighbour I got hold of some nice hose clamps suitable for the intake hose diameter. These got some nice rubber insert and also a mounting position for 8mm bolts. So I postioned the clamps a bit and drilled some 8mm holes in the inner fender. See pics for result. It is positioned nice, high and tight against the upper wheelwell. ] ] ] Gr. Bram where did these clamps come from? it looks clean | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| emlmcb Veteran Date registered: Dec 2006 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Vehicle(s): 1986 LWB 300GD / 1998 E320 / 1996 LWB G300TD Posts: 119 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| emlmcb Veteran Date registered: Dec 2006 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Vehicle(s): 1986 LWB 300GD / 1998 E320 / 1996 LWB G300TD Posts: 119 | ||
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