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2000BEAST Regular Date registered: Jul 2010 Location: NOCAL USA Vehicle(s): 2003 G500 / 2008 Carrera S / 2019 GLC 43 Posts: 83 | Funky hood latch... Doing my usual Spring maintenance on my 2003 G500. Question - anyone else have a sticky hood release latch ? I usually have to pull the interior release handle 2-3 separate times, then pull on the hood itself before it finally agrres to open. Tried cleaning and greasing the mechanism, but no real change. On other vehicles that I have had when you pull the interior release handle, the hood springs open a bit. Not happening on my G, and only opens with pulling the hood upwards. Noticed the spring as part of the latch mechanism, and there appears to be adjustment capability. Maybe try tightening the spring setting ? I dunno ... | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Funky hood latch... Take the grille off and watch it work while someone else pulls on the lever. You'll find the place that needs some lube. In any case fix it now before won't open. Also, in the interest of not getting stuck somewhere, install a pull cord on the hood release and tape it up someplace that is accessible. If it ever sticks for good you will be very happy you gave yourself an out. | ||
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colsG55 Veteran Date registered: Aug 2013 Location: Dubai Vehicle(s): G55 Classic 2000, TD5 110, 200 Series Land Cruiser Posts: 209 | Re: Funky hood latch... I have a small block of wood about 2 inch square I leave in the driver door side pocket which keeps the lever pulled so I can then walk around and lift the bonnet. I tried to lube it all as best I could and found the block of wood to be be far the most reliable. | ||
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koly Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 Posts: 823 | RE: Funky hood latch... Supposedly it's the hood's alignment. After lubing mine several times to slight affect, I had my local shop look at mine. They came up with the hood alignment all on their own. They re-aligned the hood (no lube involved) and it worked great for about a year until the sticky latch re-appeared. Edited by koly 4/5/2014 2:33 AM | ||
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grazza Veteran Date registered: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Vehicle(s): W460 230GE 1988 - OM606 turbo diesel, 722.608 auto Posts: 277 | Re: Funky hood latch... colsG55 - 4/5/2014 12:17 PM I have a small block of wood about 2 inch square I leave in the driver door side pocket which keeps the lever pulled so I can then walk around and lift the bonnet. I tried to lube it all as best I could and found the block of wood to be be far the most reliable. I have a W460 I have found that jamming something under the hood to put a bit of pressure works. Then activate the lever. I have tried all sorts ot adjustments and lubes, they work for a while but I have not found the definitive solution. Edited by grazza 4/5/2014 4:03 AM | ||
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fsedak Veteran Date registered: Feb 2010 Location: Europa Vehicle(s): G (460) - cabrio (1985) and G (460) - cabrio 1980 Posts: 162 | Re: Funky hood latch... I had also problem with opening hood. I tought it was the problem with latch. I clean it and lube it. But the problem was cable. It was rusty and doesn't work. I gave to fabricate a new one, and replaced it and now works perfect. | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: Funky hood latch... Ha! I'm glad to see one of the great conundrums of the universe is still intact! I've been cleaning, lubing, aligning for going on 13 years to no permanent success. No matter what, I always end up with "The Thump." I pull the lever while reaching through the gap between the door frame and A pillar to "thump" the rear corner of the hood with the side of my fist, and it pops up. No matter what I do it's just a matter of time before I need to THUMP it. Good luck! -Dave G. | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | RE: Funky hood latch... Maybe it's the climate, but 18 yrs with the 280GE and 12 yrs with the G500; and neither one of them ever gave a lick of trouble opening the hood. | ||
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djdinaz Extreme Veteran Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Arizona Vehicle(s): 03 G55 Posts: 439 | Re: Funky hood latch... I have my hood latch adjusted so that it can be 'clicked' shut with a pinky, but, I still have to pull the latch, reach around the A pillar and lift up on the hood to get it to open (I'll have to try Dave's THUMP method!). | ||
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A | RE: Funky hood latch... If I get ambitious, the next thing to try is shimming the base of the spring a bit so it has more force to pop the hood up. Combined with another round of clean lube and align. -Dave G. | ||
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2000BEAST Regular Date registered: Jul 2010 Location: NOCAL USA Vehicle(s): 2003 G500 / 2008 Carrera S / 2019 GLC 43 Posts: 83 | RE: Funky hood latch... Apparently I'm not alone ! yea - kinda what I was thinking (above) = adjust, or shim the spring in hopes that it will then have more "pop" when the latch is released so the hood actually pops up a bit. Right now, after I pull the interior release handle, the hood lays flat and can only be opened by manually pulling upwards on the hood itself. Worth a shot ... | ||
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Otiswesty Administrator Date registered: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213 Posts: 3004 | Re: Funky hood latch... I also do the thump maneuver. Same for my former 2002 G500 and the old 460 300GD. | ||
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2000BEAST Regular Date registered: Jul 2010 Location: NOCAL USA Vehicle(s): 2003 G500 / 2008 Carrera S / 2019 GLC 43 Posts: 83 | RE: Funky hood latch... Ok, as a follow up... Spent a little meaningful time (2 west coast IPA's, okay 3) with my hood latch mechanism this afternoon. Think I have a better understanding of what the problem may be... Simple cable actuated release mechanism. As suggested, you need to take off the grill to gain access to the cable release. There you will find a cable (think bicycle brake cable) that pulls the hood release. There is an adjustment provision (phillips head screw) that holds the cable in place. My cable was a little loose, so I unscrewed the holddown, pulled the cable a bit till no slack, and re-tightened the screw. Cleaned everything, lubed with some lithium grease - much better (smoother) action at the release lever. Tried closing the hood and releasing - no improvement Again - my problem is not the release mechanism itself, but rather that the hood does not "pop" up when you actuate the release lever. So, basically takes one person holding the release lever, while another pulls the hood up Turned my attention to the spring and safety latch that are affixed to the hood itself. Removed (2 bolts) that assembly for inspection. Noted that the "adjustment" on the spring side is for "depth" of the latch - not for spring "compression". The spring itself looks squished and spent and therein may lie the problem =10 years of compression may have taken their toll. Lubed and refitted everything - minimal improvement, works most times, but seems like just a matter of time till the hood consistently starts staying down again upon releasing the interior lever. At this stage thinking I need a new or uprated spring to provide more energy to lift that heavy hood ? I dunno ... | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Funky hood latch... You are probably on to something with the idea that the lifting spring is losing it's strength. My release mechanism is smooth, and the hood does unlatch. But is just lays there and doesn't jump up the ~2cm it used to. The EPC claims that on, my 1996, the spring is available separately (A0008870179) for a $6. It is part of the hood side of the latch. I haven't actually looked at how hard it is to replace. | ||
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T.Schuhe Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Olympia, Washington State, USA Vehicle(s): 460 1985 LWB 300GD five speed Posts: 711 | RE: Funky hood latch... When I encountered this problem, I was deep into the Rockies, and just longing to open my hood to check fluids and just say "Hi" to my 617 diesel after a long day of 9000 ft. passes, and other hard work. Added to the "hard to open" condition, I could later not close the damn hood once opened. The latch had let go and it was just needing to be replaced. I had to tie down with a rope - very uncivilized, for a Mercedes. The solution was to buy a new latch, new cable, and to make certain all bits were aligned and taunt according to specs. This took some trial and error, but in the end, I now have not problems with hood opening. The new "cable" was much better than the old wire pull device. It has become even more important now to be able to open the hood, since on our camping trips I put a pork, beef, or chicken roast on the manifold wherein meat, veggies, and other goodies are roasting while we travel to our target camp site. Not being able to open the hood means we eat trail bars...again.
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riaanharman Regular Date registered: Jan 2009 Location: South Africa Vehicle(s): 2012 - G300 Professional / 1984 - 300GD Posts: 79 | RE: Funky hood latch... RE: Funky hood latch... Ha! I'm glad to see one of the great conundrums of the universe is still intact! I've been cleaning, lubing, aligning for going on 13 years to no permanent success. No matter what, I always end up with "The Thump." I pull the lever while reaching through the gap between the door frame and A pillar to "thump" the rear corner of the hood with the side of my fist, and it pops up. No matter what I do it's just a matter of time before I need to THUMP it. Good luck! -Dave G. 100% my method also Edited by riaanharman 4/10/2014 10:08 AM | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Funky hood latch... Yup, there's no seasoning like "trail seasoning". | ||
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