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zimm
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Feb 2010
Location: pittsburgh
Vehicle(s): lx470, 76 fj40, 72fj40, 96 gelandewagen g320.
Posts: 788
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
having done the rover thing, dont feel bad for these owners, they knew they had a VIN swapped rig. precious few are impulse buys. they did the research, they know what a 25yo defender that lived on a wet island would look like. they know the cow is swapped, the frame is swapped, the engine is swapped, the interior is new, the grill is new the transmission is new... basically, they know what they did, they know what was done, and they thought plausible deniability would save them.
the thing about many VIN swapped rigs, is they are made with stolen parts before they are shipped. not all of them but many.
the tactics may seem over the top, and if i had one of the rigs that LR didnt supply good information on id be pissed, but it prevents fights. REPO man shows up at my house to take a clearly '83 110 thats paid for, but the information is showing vin swapped, and i have no idea why hes hooking at at 3am, and i could be violent or putting a hole in him. 12 cops? i'm watchin' and wonderin' wtf, but no one is getting hurt. theres no grand conspiracy to take away everyones rights. just upper middle class white men on a 4x4 site =ing paranoia. |
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koly
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Vehicle(s): 2000 G500
Posts: 823
| RE: UPDATE - DHS and Vehicle Seizures
A lawyer representing 19 of the 40 seized vehicles (of the 60 the government was targeting) was just notified that 8 vehicle seizure notices are being voluntarily dismissed (some of the 8 were on the seizure list but not actually seized for one reason or another).
60 vehicles were originally targeted/seized. 14 have been cleared (so far). |
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brabus g36
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: Canada
Vehicle(s): 89 230GE cabrio, 88 280GE LWB, 87 300GD pickup
Posts: 608
| Re: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
Arnold's unimog is for sale in Europe for only 200.000 euro's.
Look to the pictures and see if this is realy still a 1977 1300 unimog.
Did he sold it to avoid being seized?
http://www.merex.de/fahrzeuge/ |
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MudMonkey
Veteran
Date registered: Jun 2013
Location: CO
Vehicle(s): '03 G500
Posts: 274
| Re: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
Maybe Zimm in the previous post will read your post, koly, and understand that the DHS acted on incomplete information, clearly confiscating vehicles that they had no right to - and remember that there is supposed to be a presumption of innocence for our citizens here in the United States of America.
But I doubt it.
Edited by MudMonkey 9/2/2014 7:29 PM
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koly
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Vehicle(s): 2000 G500
Posts: 823
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures - ALL VEHICLES TO BE RETURNED
Update - the government has agreed to return ALL of the seized Land Rovers. The lawyer representing the injured parties apparently did a phenomenal job. I'm sure more news on the mediated settlement will come out in the following days |
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Otiswesty
Administrator
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
When I got my 1995 G320, the hole plug in the frame next to the VIN had been removed. I believe that the US Customs or Homeland security folks pulled it to scope the inside of the frame looking for a VIN swap. For a 21 year old car it is very clean and almost new condition.
I would like to replace this plug before the rainy season starts here, but cannot find it in EPC.
Any one know the part number? |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
Great detective work! Mine was missing too. Never would have thought of that reason. I didn't find the correct part number either, but eventually I just jammed in a plug that sort-of fit. My main concern was keeping dirt from getting in there and holding moisture.
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Otiswesty
Administrator
Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
AlanMcR - 9/29/2016 11:35 AM
Great detective work! Mine was missing too. Never would have thought of that reason. I didn't find the correct part number either, but eventually I just jammed in a plug that sort-of fit. My main concern was keeping dirt from getting in there and holding moisture.
Yeah, I guess I'll just measure it and go down to ACE. It's the place. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
otiswesty - 9/29/2016 1:02 PM
When I got my 1995 G320, the hole plug in the frame next to the VIN had been removed. I believe that the US Customs or Homeland security folks pulled it to scope the inside of the frame looking for a VIN swap. For a 21 year old car it is very clean and almost new condition.
I would like to replace this plug before the rainy season starts here, but cannot find it in EPC.
Any one know the part number?
I'm pretty sure that Sean at EuroTruck has a variety of these. Otherwise a caplug of the right diameter should work. I have some spare 34mm ones, if that's the correct size. |
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kiato4
Veteran
Date registered: Aug 2013
Location: New York, NY
Vehicle(s): 1995 G320, 1985 190E 2.3-16
Posts: 161
| Re: DHS and Vehicle Seizures
Do you guys have a picture of where this hole plug is and where the VIN is on the frame? I want to go take a look! |
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EuroTruck
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Oakwood, Georgia - USA
Vehicle(s): 2012 Audi A4 Avant S-Line, 2015 Ridley NOAH SL
Posts: 518
| RE: G-Class Frame Expansion Plug
otiswesty - 9/29/2016 1:02 PM When I got my 1995 G320, the hole plug in the frame next to the VIN had been removed. I believe that the US Customs or Homeland security folks pulled it to scope the inside of the frame looking for a VIN swap. For a 21 year old car it is very clean and almost new condition. I would like to replace this plug before the rainy season starts here, but cannot find it in EPC. Any one know the part number? More likely the Gov folks were looking for dope! According to the EPC, there are seven of these expansion plugs used in the frame. The part number is A 000 997 32 20 and the plug is supposedly for a 20mm hole. Please measure yours to make sure we are barking up the same tree.
Googling this part number should turn up a photo as well. Hope this helps guys, -Sean Philyaw
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