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Ernest T Bass Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | Wheel offset w460 Tried searching for this but didn't find the answer. Finally got around to getting a spare tire of the right diameter - miy truck came with a 16inch spare and 4 7x15 et10mm compomotive wheels which are now unavailable. So - got hold of a 7x15 et37 wheel - all tires are bfg 31x10.5x15 TA Are there any major problems of using it as a spare for a few hundred miles? I guess turning especially on the front would have one side going further than the other due to the 27mm difference in offset or have I got it wrong (non engineer here!) Is it necessary to find a 27mm spacer or just use as is? | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: Wheel offset w460 ET determines how far a wheel will stick out of the fender well - or how far it sits inside for the narrow tires on steel wheels ET on the 460 is 63 mm ET 37 was the optional 15" aluminum wheel ET10 makes the wheels stick out quite far and it creates a bad load on the wheel bearing do not expect them to live long only the tire diameter/radius determines how many times a tire rotates ET is not involved in that so, no negative effects when you use the ET37 as a spare | ||
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Ernest T Bass Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Wheel offset w460 Thanks Harald. Unfortunately, my truck came with these wheels - for some reason, vanity I guess, they replaced the original 7x15 et37s with et10s. I reckon, now I will have to hunt down some original wheels - easier said than done! The other problem with lower than standard et seems to be excessive vibration of the front wheels which destroys the steering damper, admittedly the larger later w463 damper fixed it BUT thats just suppressing something that should not be there and additionally you loose most of the natural steering self-centering. Just out of interest - would wider wheels, say 8inch with standard et approximate to a 10mm et in 7inch width in terms of bearing stress? | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: Wheel offset w460 I had ET5 for many years - made the car very stable but it was eating bearings 20,000 miles when I was lucky I had 35x12.50 tires - with proper ET they would rub on the trailing arms and on the pitman arm a low ET (or wheel spacers) move the wheels out and away from contact wider wheels will not reduce the load on the bearings | ||
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Ernest T Bass Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | RE: Wheel offset w460 Thanks again Harald Photos of the wheels - compomotive 7x15 10et - wolfrace 7x15 37et Edited by Ernest T Bass 10/24/2014 7:54 AM (wolfrace.jpg) (compomotive.jpg) Attachments ---------------- wolfrace.jpg (40KB - 1 downloads) compomotive.jpg (40KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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jack7preston Date registered: Nov 2012 Location: NYC/Southampton Vehicle(s): 87 LWB 2 door with rear barn door Kastenwagen, G55 | RE: Wheel offset w460 you could alway switch over to w463 knuckles and bearings and not have to worry about bearing ware or failure. or if your really worried get yourself a set of Canadian military HD knuckles and bearings, thats what i did. cheers jack | ||
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4x4abc Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico Vehicle(s): 02 G500 | RE: Wheel offset w460 part numbers, Jack? images? | ||
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jack7preston Date registered: Nov 2012 Location: NYC/Southampton Vehicle(s): 87 LWB 2 door with rear barn door Kastenwagen, G55 | RE: Wheel offset w460 here you go, i dont have parts numbers as i got both sets as a complete kit. (FullSizeRender (6).jpg) (FullSizeRender (5).jpg) (FullSizeRender (4).jpg) (FullSizeRender (3).jpg) (FullSizeRender (2).jpg) (FullSizeRender.jpg) Attachments ---------------- FullSizeRender (6).jpg (130KB - 0 downloads) FullSizeRender (5).jpg (125KB - 0 downloads) FullSizeRender (4).jpg (123KB - 0 downloads) FullSizeRender (3).jpg (136KB - 0 downloads) FullSizeRender (2).jpg (122KB - 0 downloads) FullSizeRender.jpg (201KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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AlanMcR Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, CA, Los Altos Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL Posts: 3500 | RE: Wheel offset w460 Looks like a 463 w/ lug nuts. | ||
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jack7preston Date registered: Nov 2012 Location: NYC/Southampton Vehicle(s): 87 LWB 2 door with rear barn door Kastenwagen, G55 | RE: Wheel offset w460 AlanMcR - 10/25/2014 10:46 PM Looks like a 463 w/ lug nuts. its the HD bearings that really make the big diff over the w463 stockers and as you know the w463 are better then the w460 stockers. but to simplify. stock w460 knuckles and bearings = good stock w463 knuckles and bearings = very good and more than enough for 100% of people out there. Canadian military (or the like) knuckles with HD bearings = great and are absolutely pointless....thats why i bought 2 sets Edited by jack7preston 10/25/2014 11:16 PM | ||
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Johnny Christensen Veteran Date registered: Sep 2010 Location: Denmark Vehicle(s): GD290 W461 Posts: 202 | RE: Wheel offset w460 jack7preston - 10/26/2014 5:15 AM Canadian military (or the like) knuckles with HD bearings = great and are absolutely pointless....thats why i bought 2 sets :bleh: | ||
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Ernest T Bass Date registered: Dec 1899 Location: Vehicle(s): | Re: Wheel offset w460 Anyone know the type # for the military G - maybe the epc I have would show it? | ||
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kashi123 Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK, Netherlands Vehicle(s): Mercedes 300GD OM606A Pickup; Mercedes 300GD Posts: 168 | RE: Wheel offset w460 Johnny Christensen - 10/26/2014 8:17 AM jack7preston - 10/26/2014 5:15 AM Canadian military (or the like) knuckles with HD bearings = great and are absolutely pointless....thats why i bought 2 sets :bleh: :biggrin: Oh that sounds so familiar! As cv joints harly ever break and halfshafts never, i bought rvc axles and cv joints as they are even more strong. Did i need them? Probably not, did I want them? YES | ||
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DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | Re: Wheel offset w460 Ernest T Bass - 10/26/2014 9:11 AM Anyone know the type # for the military G - maybe the epc I have would show it? This one was posted several years ago as a supposed to be Canadian Military G. It was delivered in 2004, so it may or may not have the most recent hubs. The diagram in the EPC does not show the hub as was posted in the thread above. Attachments ---------------- VDC_WDB4613311X146792.pdf (363KB - 15 downloads) | ||
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jack7preston Date registered: Nov 2012 Location: NYC/Southampton Vehicle(s): 87 LWB 2 door with rear barn door Kastenwagen, G55 | Re: Wheel offset w460 Ernest T Bass - 10/26/2014 9:11 AM Anyone know the type # for the military G - maybe the epc I have would show it? to be honest Canadian Military G knuckle and bearings are very rare and hard to come by but like i said before w463 knuckle and bearings are more than you or anyone for that matter will ever need . | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | RE: Wheel offset w460 jack7preston - 10/25/2014 11:15 PM Canadian military (or the like) knuckles with HD bearings = great and are absolutely pointless....thats why i bought 2 sets :bleh: Part #'s of those bearings? | ||
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jack7preston Date registered: Nov 2012 Location: NYC/Southampton Vehicle(s): 87 LWB 2 door with rear barn door Kastenwagen, G55 | RE: Wheel offset w460 Titus Pullo - 10/26/2014 12:34 PM jack7preston - 10/25/2014 11:15 PM Canadian military (or the like) knuckles with HD bearings = great and are absolutely pointless....thats why i bought 2 sets :bleh: Part #'s of those bearings?jack7preston - 10/25/2014 8:31 PM here you go, i dont have parts numbers as i got both sets as a complete kit. G500 bearings will work as well as they are the same dimensions as the ones in the Canadian military G. the difference is in the material quality of the bearings as you know not all bears are created equal, as well as the Canadian knuckles only needing bolts NOT studs to mount wheels. | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | Re: Wheel offset w460 this is what I wanted to confirm. Basically same size bearing. | ||
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Johnny Christensen Veteran Date registered: Sep 2010 Location: Denmark Vehicle(s): GD290 W461 Posts: 202 | Re: Wheel offset w460 jack7preston - 10/26/2014 6:09 PM to be honest Canadian Military G knuckle and bearings are very rare and hard to come by but like i said before w463 knuckle and bearings are more than you or anyone for that matter will ever need . ;) Do they change the track with, or did mercedes do that at the axle tubes? Asking if it would allow to run w463 wheels on w460 / 461 axles without the use of a spacer | ||
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Titus Pullo Elite Veteran Date registered: May 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Vehicle(s): '90 Wolf 240GD, '06 G270 CDI. Posts: 1010 | Re: Wheel offset w460 No, I dont think so. | ||
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