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Adoni
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle(s): '00 G500, '15 C300 4Matic, '06 L322 G4
Posts: 1283
| AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Me-thinks that even if they build it, MBUSA won't let it see our shores...
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
the portals look very fragile and the wheels/tires are a joke for off-road |
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koly
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Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Vehicle(s): 2000 G500
Posts: 823
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Looks like they gave up on the dazzle-effect half-way up when they realized it's kind of hard to disguise a vehicle that's shaped like a refrigerator and has had the same body for 35 years. 
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
any insight on the portals? they look very different |
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bram_r
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Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| Re: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Probably an ORC or LeTech build this one
http://www.letechusa.com/products.html
The G 6x6 got some LeTech products on there as well.
Interesting that MB designed a production vehicle with a number of aftermarket parts.
gr. Bram
Edited by bram_r 11/20/2014 9:09 AM
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512bbi
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Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Very interesting....... for sure not orc but are they really using using after market products on the 6x6?
I have a hard time believing that .
What I really wonder about is how are they going to keep them safe if imported here when some will install wheels and tires like on the photo and drive on pavement!
I also wonder if they will fix the window regulator issues and steering wobbles with 37s 
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Luky
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Bratislava, Slovakia, EU
Vehicle(s): 300GE LWB auto, E320CDI 4M, VW Polo Classic 1.6
Posts: 1062
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Yes, they are using LeTech bolt on portals on the 6x6 and I have no doubt they are also using them on the 4x4.
This is the axle stamp of a G63 6x6 WDB4632721X211154, photo was taken at IAA Hanover in September 2013.
BTW. the middle axle for the G 6x6 is also an aftermarket product of an Austrian company called Oberaigner. AFAIK the Arctic Trucks Hilux 6x6 has exactly the same middle axle.
http://www.oberaigner.com/
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Luky - 11/21/2014 1:35 AM
Yes, they are using LeTech bolt on portals on the 6x6 and I have no doubt they are also using them on the 4x4.
This is the axle stamp of a G63 6x6 WDB4632721X211154, photo was taken at IAA Hanover in September 2013.
BTW. the middle axle for the G 6x6 is also an aftermarket product of an Austrian company called Oberaigner. AFAIK the Arctic Trucks Hilux 6x6 has exactly the same middle axle.
http://www.oberaigner.com/
Oberaigner now has a joint venture set up with Daimler, similar to the joint venture with MagnaSteyr to build the G. The 4WD Sprinters use an Oberaigner drive train. |
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bram_r
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Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Luky - 11/21/2014 7:35 AM
Yes, they are using LeTech bolt on portals on the 6x6 and I have no doubt they are also using them on the 4x4.
I'm pressure sure they also use the central air pressure system for in- and deflating the tires from LeTech.
Check out the LeTech system and compare to the pics of the G63 6x6.
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512bbi
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Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Here I am day dreaming and I am thinking how I could lower the suspension on my G by shortening the springs ,increase compression allowable travel and leave extension stock for even more flex of road and get the height back plus a lot more by the addition of portal axles.
Even just 35s would be perfect for me......and all I would need for all around use
I wonder how top heavy or over easy the G will be with the wheel base we have on a four door with the portals.
Does anyone know how much taller the 6x6 might be from the portal gain of height along and if the suspension is lower than the regular Gs without portals?
They should build this truck with four wheel steering too and have it be the most capable 4x4 ever on the four door wagon wheelbase!
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
LeTech / Lennartz Technik does really nice G parts and restorations. The owner is also very nice and helped me with the lower radiator hose problem. Great support and they seem very professional. |
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bram_r
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Date registered: Apr 2007
Location: the Netherlands
Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD
Posts: 1659
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
Does anyone know how much taller the 6x6 might be from the portal gain of height along and if the suspension is lower than the regular Gs without portals?
Mario
The LetTech info says:
"The axles add 150mm of extra height to the vehicle without changing any suspension geometry. The gear ratio inside the portals are made to compensate for 37" tires for proper functioning of all systems including the speedometer, ABS, cruise control etc"
Don't know about the suspension being taller or lower.
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4x4abc
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: La Paz, Baja California, Mexico
Vehicle(s): 02 G500
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
does anyone have detail images of the new 8 lug wheels? |
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
DUTCH - 11/21/2014 7:33 AM
Luky - 11/21/2014 1:35 AM
Yes, they are using LeTech bolt on portals on the 6x6 and I have no doubt they are also using them on the 4x4.
This is the axle stamp of a G63 6x6 WDB4632721X211154, photo was taken at IAA Hanover in September 2013.
BTW. the middle axle for the G 6x6 is also an aftermarket product of an Austrian company called Oberaigner. AFAIK the Arctic Trucks Hilux 6x6 has exactly the same middle axle.
http://www.oberaigner.com/
Oberaigner now has a joint venture set up with Daimler, similar to the joint venture with MagnaSteyr to build the G. The 4WD Sprinters use an Oberaigner drive train.
Yes, that is correct. Oberaigner is responsible for the Viano 4Matric and the AWD / 4x4 Sprinters. I believe they also do the 6x6 work for the G-Class.
In the early days (circa 2008ish), I remember ordering a Sprinter from Germany and the dealer in Munich sent it to Austria for Oberaigner to do the AWD conversion at their facility.
But now-a-days, in Europe, you can order AWD configuration directly when you are building your Sprinter and the production is much more integrated between Daimler and Oberaigner in Austria. |
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512bbi
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Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
H1LM002G55 - 11/22/2014 7:21 PM
DUTCH - 11/21/2014 7:33 AM
Luky - 11/21/2014 1:35 AM
Yes, they are using LeTech bolt on portals on the 6x6 and I have no doubt they are also using them on the 4x4.
This is the axle stamp of a G63 6x6 WDB4632721X211154, photo was taken at IAA Hanover in September 2013.
BTW. the middle axle for the G 6x6 is also an aftermarket product of an Austrian company called Oberaigner. AFAIK the Arctic Trucks Hilux 6x6 has exactly the same middle axle.
http://www.oberaigner.com/
Oberaigner now has a joint venture set up with Daimler, similar to the joint venture with MagnaSteyr to build the G. The 4WD Sprinters use an Oberaigner drive train.
Yes, that is correct. Oberaigner is responsible for the Viano 4Matric and the AWD / 4x4 Sprinters. I believe they also do the 6x6 work for the G-Class.
In the early days (circa 2008ish ), I remember ordering a Sprinter from Germany and the dealer in Munich sent it to Austria for Oberaigner to do the AWD conversion at their facility.
But now-a-days, in Europe, you can order AWD configuration directly when you are building your Sprinter and the production is much more integrated between Daimler and Oberaigner in Austria.
This is some good information and Sprinters sound very interesting for exploring Europe in AWD.
I have always wondered about doing the G Airstream combo in Europe and I was always thinking it would be too hard as the dirt trails and paved areas are so much more smaller and challenging there,where the G shines but not the Airstream maybe.
Back to the G with portals I can not help thinking how almost 6 inch lift by portals along and another 2 more inches from tires makes the G 8 inches over stock!
Would not that be too much for the wheel base of our four door wagons to be safe in most conditions?
It will be interesting to see if they will put this in production.....that prototype looks like they might do it
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
You need a Sprinter Westfalia (The German Westfalia) with 4x4. Problem solved for your trips over in Europe (which still has really nice camping sites throughout many of the countries). |
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512bbi
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Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: North western US and Europe
Vehicle(s): 05G55kge,Range rover classic,clk55amg,ML 430
Posts: 1313
| Re: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
H1LM002G55 - 11/22/2014 10:41 PM
You need a Sprinter Westfalia (The German Westfalia) with 4x4. Problem solved for your trips over in Europe (which still has really nice camping sites throughout many of the countries).
I will look it up thank you.
I dry camp a lot in the middle of no where as I do here in the US
What do you think about the new possible portal G?
Those huge wheels and goofy tires look like taller than 33s on the photos ...maybe 34s or 35s?
The truck does not look 8 inches taller than stock to me......lower suspension static height maybe?
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
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| Re: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
http://www.westfalia-mobil.net/en/modelle/james-cook/james-cook-mob...
There is one in the U.S. A real-deal German Westfalia James Cook Sprinter. The owner bought it in Germany, toured around between Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy with it staying in the campsites (You can buy a guide to the campsites in Germany and pre-pay the access passes with a book of entrance tickets for the sites).
He then shipped it to the U.S. and drove it up along Pacific Coast Highway to some of the Nor Cal camping sites but noted that with the U.S. economy being what it is, many of the (nice) camp sites were inhabited by vagrants and vagabonds and trailers were "zero lot line".
It will be sent back to Germany shortly for another western-europe camping tour and then he plans on selling it in Germany.
It was expensive to ship from Germany to the U.S.
Since the roof height was oversize, they did not calculate shipment cost using standard methods for floor area occupied and weight. It was oversize because of the high roof and had to go RORO, with surcharges for being extra tall.
All I can say is that it looks like a space shuttle and is as pretty as can be in silver. The giant, panoramic glass sides are pretty neat, too. It draws stares when you pull up to a campsite in the U.S. or in Germany with it...Definitely considered to be "posh and stylish"...
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LPG
Date registered: May 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Vehicle(s): G
| RE: AMG Prepping Off-Road Oriented G63
It is interesting with the double coilovers, as first seen on the 2012 LAPV 6.1 Concept.
Edited by LPG 11/23/2014 8:57 AM
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