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Desert Fox
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Date registered: May 2013
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Vehicle(s): G500 2002
Posts: 191
| 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
I'm looking into getting a garage jack and jackstands for my 2002 G500.
3 tons seems to be sufficient on paper. Anyone agree or disagree?
Also, any recommendations on models?
I saw this on pepboys.com: Big Red 3 Ton Garage Combo
http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9576492/00645/tools/jacks_ra...
Thanks for your input.
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DUTCH
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
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| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
In my experience, the best floor jack I've found is the AC Hydraulic Jack from Denmark. Pelican Parts sells them. This is the one I have, although I don't feel I use the quick lift pedal enough to justify the added cost..
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1_p...
It's rated at 4400 lbs and a bit pricey, but it works very well on the G. Here's a link to the manufacturer's website:
http://www.ac-hydraulic.dk/en/products/hydraulic-jacks/dk20-dk20q/
Here's a link that tells a bit about the company: http://www.ac-hydraulic.dk/en/about-us/
The jack stands I use are rated at 6600 lbs, and I have four; although I rarely use more than two at a time. These are identical to what I have, and used to be made by or sold under the AC Hydraulics brand. They are quite heavy and are very stable.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1_p...
There is at least one other P3 member who uses both of these, too. |
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hipine
Date registered: Jul 2006
Location: US, CO, Bailey
Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A
| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
I would say definitely NOT on those jack stands. The bases are way too narrow. A good rule of thumb is for the stand base to be at least 50% as wide as the stand's max height is tall for good stability. You need something with a pyramid shaped base and also definitely NOT a "pin through a pipe" design for holding it up. Look for a very solid over-center ratchet arm design. This is ALL about your confidence when you're literally trusting your life to these things. Think more like this:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Jack-Stand...
The floor jack I have is a generic store brand. It's been lifting the G and 50 other vehicles 100% reliably for 25 years. Point of diminishing returns in "pay for performance" probably comes around $250 for these things IMHO. This one from NAPA seems to be putting in a lot of good service for a lot of people.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Floor-Jack...
I don't have anything special for NAPA, they're just commonly available, usually good for reasonable price, AND you're supporting a local owner operator small businessman in the process. I don't own a NAPA jack, just see lots of people who do that like them.
If you have a real known need for than 2ft of lifted height, then you're in a different class of jack like the one Dutch posted. I'm not as old as Dutch, but I haven't had a need to go there with a floor jack....YET! 
Good luck!
-Dave G. |
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DUTCH
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| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
hipine - 12/10/2014 11:37 PM
I would say definitely NOT on those jack stands. The bases are way too narrow. A good rule of thumb is for the stand base to be at least 50% as wide as the stand's max height is tall for good stability. You need something with a pyramid shaped base and also definitely NOT a "pin through a pipe" design for holding it up. Look for a very solid over-center ratchet arm design. This is ALL about your confidence when you're literally trusting your life to these things.
Good luck!
-Dave G.
+1 My thoughts exactly, when I looked at his link.
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03-Gwagen
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d
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| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
I use both versions of AC hydraulics jack stands.
The one in the pic that dutch posted is great for axle. It is a perfect fit.
I use the flat top one for other positions especially on the front axle close to the where there is a flat area. Problem with the flat top is if there is any oil or undercoating on the flat top pad it can slip. |
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ace10
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
AC makes a nice jack. I have the super low profile, long reach model. Bought it years ago to reach the central jacking point on my Honda S2000. It couldn't dream of lifting any sort of truck or suv, but it is definitely well made. |
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DUTCH
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
ace10 - 12/11/2014 6:50 PM
AC makes a nice jack. I have the super low profile, long reach model. Bought it years ago to reach the central jacking point on my Honda S2000. It couldn't dream of lifting any sort of truck or suv, but it is definitely well made.
The AC DK20 has never let me down when lifting the G. It's capacity is 4400 lbs, and can easily lift either end of the truck. It's served me well for almost 20 years. |
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olasdeplata
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
I have issues with my Craftsman 2 1/2... The base is too small and it becomes unstable when fully lifted. Also, the lift height is not enough.
I will focus on "lift height", location of the top cup within the base when fully extended, to avoid a "willy" that has happened to me before and the base dimensions.
A heavy duty 3 ton will weight close to 130 lbs vs a chepo 41 lbs... $500 vs $60, I went cheap and made a mistake in an area where safety is crucial. |
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ace10
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
DUTCH - 12/12/2014 5:29 AM ace10 - 12/11/2014 6:50 PM AC makes a nice jack. I have the super low profile, long reach model. Bought it years ago to reach the central jacking point on my Honda S2000. It couldn't dream of lifting any sort of truck or suv, but it is definitely well made. The AC DK20 has never let me down when lifting the G. It's capacity is 4400 lbs, and can easily lift either end of the truck. It's served me well for almost 20 years. I have the DK13HL. It's only rated for 2800 lbs. But it was the only jack that could fit under my Honda at the time. It is super, super low profile. With a very high lift. I use it for other cars, but there's not enough grunt there to lift a big vehicle.
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ace10
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
This is my favorite floor jack: http://www.asedeals.com/store/aff-aluminum-racing-jack-2-ton-capaci... It lives in my big trailer for use at the track, but I find myself pulling it out for driveway use too. Super stable. Wheels/casters roll nicely. The up stroke and release are very smooth. The weight isn't too bad, either. 19.5" lift isn't super high, but it doesn't strain getting there. I have it for almost seven years.
Edited by ace10 12/13/2014 12:36 PM
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Desert Fox
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Date registered: May 2013
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Thank you, everyone. Much appreciated. |
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Lynch
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Date registered: Oct 2014
Location: Canada
Vehicle(s): 2001 G500 LWB, 1999 G320 Cab, 1995 W124 E500 LTD
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but I'm also in the market for jack stands to use to work on the G.
I'm thinking I want 4 flat-top jack stands for normal usage, but would I also benefit from 2 axle-style jack stands as well, or would I be fine with the flat ones?
What would you guys recommend?
Edited by Lynch 10/12/2015 9:13 AM
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DUTCH
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Lynch - 10/12/2015 9:12 AM
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but I'm also in the market for jack stands to use to work on the G.
I'm thinking I want 4 flat-top jack stands for normal usage, but would I also benefit from 2 axle-style jack stands as well, or would I be fine with the flat ones?
What would you guys recommend?
I personally like the axle style with the u-shaped top. There's much less chance of it slipping off the stand. |
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Lynch
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Hi DUTCH,
Thanks for the reply!
Would you say there's no need for the flat-top ones then?
I assume if I'm going to be jacking it up, I'd probably only use the jack stands for the axle.
And would you say to get 4, 2 for the front, 2 for the rear? |
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DUTCH
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| Re: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Lynch - 10/12/2015 5:16 PM
Hi DUTCH,
Thanks for the reply!
Would you say there's no need for the flat-top ones then?
I assume if I'm going to be jacking it up, I'd probably only use the jack stands for the axle.
And would you say to get 4, 2 for the front, 2 for the rear?
I have four, but have really only ever used a maximum of two at a time. |
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Europe
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| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
For me the "danish" bottle jacks, and their stickers, looks like jacks from Weber-Hydraulik, Geländewagen OEM.
http://www.weber-hydraulik.com/en/produkte/werkstattausruestung/?tx...
Sealy have some compact jacks that fits into your Geländewagen. The first one I bought leaked a bit.
Not sure if available in the US?
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=DoProductSearch&... |
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Lynch
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Date registered: Oct 2014
Location: Canada
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Posts: 67
| RE: 3 ton low profile garage jack and jackstands?
Do you mean the bottle jacks that AC Hydraulics ones? Haha, it sure looks similar to me.
http://www.ac-hydraulic.dk/en/products/bottle-jacks/ and the one you linked.
Are these the same ones are the factory G jacks? Mine is missing it, previous owner had a Toyota one in it, and not a bottle jack.
Is there a recommended Bottle Jack size/weight/model for our G's, for the Weber?
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