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03-Gwagen
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Vehicle(s): CLK63 Black Series, 2018 G63, 2016 GLE300d
Posts: 888
| Will Smith's G
Looks like a newer G63.
Why wouldn't the bullet penetrate the door?
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kotton
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Date registered: Sep 2014
Location: California, Orange County
Vehicle(s): 2006 G-500
Posts: 84
| Re: Will Smith's G
Could have been a 45 ACP hollow point, which is a relatively slow bullet that hits like a mallet , but wont over-penetrate.
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w.james
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Date registered: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Vehicle(s): 84 280 GE 617A 5sp getrag
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| Re: Will Smith's G
Maybe it went thru one door, thru a leg, and most of the way thru the door |
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3gtf
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Date registered: Dec 2012
Location: Preston,Lancashire ,England
Vehicle(s): BMW e60 ,Mer sl280 ,g wagon 280 ,Mer sl350 Mer cls
Posts: 4
| Re: Will Smith's G
May be the car has acne |
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Otiswesty
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Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3006
| Re: Will Smith's G
He must have been "getting jiggy wit it" |
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mike
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: toronto, canada
Vehicle(s): 1985 280 ge, 1978 bj40 landcruiser
Posts: 79
| Re: Will Smith's G
its probably an armoured version |
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DUTCH
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Will Smith's G
mike - 4/29/2016 11:38 AM
its probably an armoured version
Doubtful! |
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NHDave
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Date registered: Dec 2013
Location: Seacoast NH.
Vehicle(s): 2004 AMG
Posts: 465
| Re: Will Smith's G
DUTCH - 4/29/2016 2:09 PM mike - 4/29/2016 11:38 AM its probably an armoured version Doubtful! Agreed^ This is what an armored vehicle can with stand! |
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beepers90
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Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: charlotte, nc
Vehicle(s): 02 G500, 05 C230 Kompressor
Posts: 52
| Re: Will Smith's G
Could have a road rage kit which is a thin Kevlar and 17mm polycarbonate bonded to the back of oem glass. It's the most affordable armor kit for a G but this bullet didn't hit the strike face. So it could be an aftermarket armored version, as it looks like Kevlar caught the bullet strike and the door skins role was reversed. |
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beepers90
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Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: charlotte, nc
Vehicle(s): 02 G500, 05 C230 Kompressor
Posts: 52
| Re: Will Smith's G
If the windows are rolled all the way down, it's likely not armored, or they took it out for repair. Anyone who rides with rolled down windows in an armored car is a doofus. Plus anything over the b4 or III A would kill the window regulators if they went down more than about 6" for a document pass thru.
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colkrang
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Date registered: May 2015
Location: Denver
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500
Posts: 27
| Re: Will Smith's G
This is the bullet exit point. Or attempt to exit. 45acp has difficulty penetrating both door panels of a well made auto. Any hit on a seat back or center tunnel makes that much worse |
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: Will Smith's G
His truck is clearly not armored. The assailant used a Ruger pistol in .45 caliber. As stated above, the velocity (subsonic) is such that the .45 bullet flattened out and did not exit. I also highly doubt that the bullets were hollow point. I have yet to see "criminal/inner city" elements know anything about professional ammunition and weapons selection and most never even have fully loaded magazines or cylinders...they are street thugs and not educated gun fighters.
I will say this. Anyone who was around in the 1980s should remember the move to 38 Super in the 1911 frame. A good idea as capacity was increased to 10 rounds in the magazine and the muzzle velocity was much higher, within the range of .357 magnum territory. It had much better penetration capability for vehicle doors and windscreens.
I think it is a smart move with any defensive handgun to load some FMJ ammo in addition to hollow points. The best hollow points (reliable, consistent expansion) are Winchester Ranger SXTs probably. I do subscribe to the above principle and load both HP and FMJ...particularly in 9mm handguns (which everyone is transitioning back to, including most federal government agencies). |
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colkrang
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Date registered: May 2015
Location: Denver
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500
Posts: 27
| Re: Will Smith's G
Doing some research on the shooting, it looks like the shooter shot Smith through his drivers side window opening, and the bullet you see on the door panel struck his wife in the right leg on the way to exiting.
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Otiswesty
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Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posts: 3006
| Re: Will Smith's G
Crazy world |
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colkrang
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Date registered: May 2015
Location: Denver
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500
Posts: 27
| Re: Will Smith's G
People wonder why I own guns. And keep one at hand at all times. |
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Will Smith's G
colkrang - 5/21/2016 10:58 AM
People wonder why I own guns. And keep one at hand at all times.
Here's my choice for close quarter discussions. 10 rounds of 00 Buck disbursed semi-automatically.
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ILIAN
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Date registered: Sep 2014
Location: Boston MA
Vehicle(s): 2000 G500 1999 CL500
Posts: 181
| Re: Will Smith's G
You don't need such a long muzzle for close quarter discussions. Cut it off |
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colkrang
Member
Date registered: May 2015
Location: Denver
Vehicle(s): 2004 G500
Posts: 27
| Re: Will Smith's G
The government in these parts gets arresty when you do that ILIAN. and Dutch, good choice lol. I have the same gun but it is a registered short barrel shotgun from my time as a shooting instructor. I don't know if I have a pictures.
I wish the VEPR had been available when I did the SBS though, it is made a little better. Mine has a full polish job and lots of parts to run as a SBS. And the gas holes are drilled large.
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H1LM002G55
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Date registered: Mar 2010
Location: S Florida / Geneva / Jeddah
Vehicle(s): 500 GE, G55, LM002, H1
Posts: 1796
| Re: Will Smith's G
The disadvantage to the Vepr is it is heavier and the self regulating gas system is not adjustable like on the Saiga. There is good reason to own both. |
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NHDave
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Date registered: Dec 2013
Location: Seacoast NH.
Vehicle(s): 2004 AMG
Posts: 465
| Re: Will Smith's G
How many here has had a chance to blast a 12 gauge bear slug, thru a house or into the grill of a truck?
I can tell you you, there's no hiding from this low velocity heavy weight, It's beyond belief! |
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