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2000 G500 Rear Bumper
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Posted 4/23/2016 7:52 PM
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2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Has anyone replaced their 2000 G500 rear bumper with the g-wagenaccessories.com rear bumper, and would like to find a home for their old stock bumper?

Was on an un-maintained Forest Service road today. Dropped off a rock into a deep hole and the right rear bumper landed on the rock with the whole rear weight of the truck on it. Fiberglas doesn't hold up very well when hit with the weight of the truck.

PM me. Thanks.
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Posted 4/24/2016 9:28 AM
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A Couple of Photos & A Question

Here are a couple of photos of the damage. Looks like the end cap also got cracked, but should be repairable. The bumper itself has an MSRP of US$1,220 discounted to US$915. The end cap is MSRP US$595 discounted to US$446.25. Hopefully, it can be salvaged and save that expense.

My question is how are the backup sensors secured in the bumper and end cap? They are not damaged, and I certainly don't want to hurt them when I replace the bumper.



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Posted 4/24/2016 11:47 AM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

I replaced my fiberglass bumper with Karl's bumper a couple of years ago and don't remember how to get them out but it was easy. Karl posted pictures of dummy sensors at one point and if you can find that post you can probably see how to remove them. I think they have a "squeeze to release" plastic attachment on the back. I can't remember exactly. Good luck.
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Posted 4/24/2016 12:06 PM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

A local boat repair might fix that right up.  The bumper I have on my truck right now was repaired.  No way of telling without looking at the back side.


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Posted 4/24/2016 3:23 PM
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

That's a bummer Dutch. I had damaged mine in an identical manner last year near Telluride. I ended up repairing it myself by grinding out the cracks then a fiberglass patch on the back side. It gets tricky in the lower right corner of your reverse light recess, getting the contour correct. Body filler the the outside smooth then prime and paint. The cap that is damaged can be repaired to a degree that is unnoticeable also. I spent a few days on mine and considering how light and prone to damage the bumper is, that I would repair again or upgrade to Karl's bumper.

The backup sensors are easy to remove once you understand the plug and retainer spring functionality. By squeezing oppisite sides of the spring clips you relive the pressure on the plastic teeth encasing the sensor.

Edited by Aircruiser 4/24/2016 3:29 PM
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Posted 4/24/2016 8:15 PM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Thanks all. In addition to the smashed fiberglas, the whole bumper is pushed up against the bottom of the tail light assembly; which leads me to believe that the mounting brackets are also bent at $60 discounted.

Not being a fiberglas repair guy, I'll probably buy new from MBUSA at a little over US$900. As nice as Karl's replacement bumper is, I simply can't afford the list price. Does anyone know if the bumper comes painted? The bumper does not match the car body, so I'm hoping however it's finished will be acceptable.

Thanks for all of y'all's suggestions.
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Posted 4/24/2016 9:50 PM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

I have the right sided bumper end cap with the back up sensor hole in very nice used condition.
Advertised elsewhere at $60, available from your local forum member for $50.



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Posted 4/25/2016 6:58 AM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

otiswesty - 4/24/2016 9:50 PM

I have the right sided bumper end cap with the back up sensor hole in very nice used condition.
Advertised elsewhere at $60, available from your local forum member for $50.


You have a PM.
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Posted 4/25/2016 8:37 AM
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

The replacement bumper center section usuall comes from the dealer in a white/gray primer, ready for paint.

I doubt that you need new brackets, there is a range of vertical motion built into the mounting system for alignment purposes. Each of the four brackets firmly attach to the bumper center section on one end with two bolts, the other end has two bolt holes for frame attachment that allows for some vertical adjustment. The brackets tend to bend when impacted from the rear or side, when the impact comes from below the bolts clamping forces is exceeded resulting in a misaligned bumper.

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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Aircruiser - 4/25/2016 8:37 AM

The replacement bumper center section usuall comes from the dealer in a white/gray primer, ready for paint.

I doubt that you need new brackets, there is a range of vertical motion built into the mounting system for alignment purposes. Each of the four brackets firmly attach to the bumper center section on one end with two bolts, the other end has two bolt holes for frame attachment that allows for some vertical adjustment. The brackets tend to bend when impacted from the rear or side, when the impact comes from below the bolts clamping forces is exceeded resulting in a misaligned bumper.


Thanks. Anyone know the paint color code for the pre-MBUSA bumper from Europa Int'l?

The other bracket that's bent is the one mounting the mud flap. It looks to be of light enough construction that I can, hopefully, bend it back to the proper shape.
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Posted 4/25/2016 10:50 AM
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

The bumper color question is one that is difficult to answer. At some point near 2000 bumpers started coming body color. Mine were body color as far as I can tell originally. Black trucks like yours were most likely.

MB 7167 Tiefdunkelgrau Matt - Deep dark gray matte
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Posted 4/25/2016 1:43 PM
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Aircruiser - 4/25/2016 10:50 AM

The bumper color question is one that is difficult to answer. At some point near 2000 bumpers started coming body color. Mine were body color as far as I can tell originally. Black trucks like yours were most likely.

MB 7167 Tiefdunkelgrau Matt - Deep dark gray matte


Thanks Matt. Mine is not body color, Tiefdunkelgrau is probably it.
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Duplicolor Bumper Black is remarkably close and cheap.  It has proven to be easy to apply and really durable, even on the flex parts. 


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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Dutch,

I would assume you saw this:

http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=5453
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

03-Gwagen - 4/25/2016 5:01 PM

Dutch,

I would assume you saw this:

http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=5453


Thanks. I had not, but do remember that there was some talk about the paint sometime in the past.
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

If you repair it yourself as Alan suggested, you can repaint with the factory color.
The dealer sells touch up spray paint that I used on my front bumper after welding on brackets for the license plate holder.
Good match.

A000 986 29 50 7167 Tiefdunkelgrau matt

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Posted 4/26/2016 12:13 PM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

The center section inside the brush guard supports is spray painted, the outer section is factory paint. Hard to tell the difference unless you know it has been done.
I think the A000 986 29 50 9040 spray can would have been a little darker, maybe better.

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Posted 4/28/2016 9:53 AM
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RE: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

otiswesty - 4/26/2016 9:58 AM

If you repair it yourself as Alan suggested, you can repaint with the factory color.
The dealer sells touch up spray paint that I used on my front bumper after welding on brackets for the license plate holder.
Good match.

A000 986 29 50 7167 Tiefdunkelgrau matt


Eric, Is one spray can enough for the whole rear bumper? If not, how many should I get to paint a complete new from MB rear bumper?
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Re: 2000 G500 Rear Bumper

Hi Dutch
Just noticed there is one for sale on EBay UK at the moment. It's listed with a pile of other bodywork parts, but he's willing to split apparently. Wants £300 for the rear bumper. It's nowhere near me but if I can help anyway let me know.
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David J. Pearson - 5/13/2016 4:04 AM

Hi Dutch
Just noticed there is one for sale on EBay UK at the moment. It's listed with a pile of other bodywork parts, but he's willing to split apparently. Wants £300 for the rear bumper. It's nowhere near me but if I can help anyway let me know.
David


Thanks, but I already have a new one from MB in my garage awaiting paint.
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