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| W460 bumper Design Hello. I figure I would post up a current project I have been working on for the past two months. I'm designing a bumper for our w460 300gd that we imported from the Netherlands. Turns out we couldn't score the antec grill guard that came with it so we are fabricating our own. The original design is based on a free 3d model I found on the web to use as a base point until the truck made it here. Since then I have been reworking the design to fit. I'm incorporating a class v hitch which is way overkill but I'm having fun doing it. In my previous life I designed vehicle interiors and body parts for a specialty vehicle manufacture located in Alabama and also did some armor vehicle design. I'm now working for a large tire manufacturer that has enabled me to hone my skills as a designer and provided me with the actual time to develop this bumper. I have really been interested in what bumpers and brush guards are available and I cover some examples on my blog on my website www.langoffroad.com Would like some feedback from you guys who may have input or suggestions. (1.jpg) (2.jpg) (BASE4-1.JPG) (3.jpg) Attachments ----------------  1.jpg (110KB - 0 downloads) 2.jpg (151KB - 0 downloads) BASE4-1.JPG (86KB - 0 downloads) 3.jpg (107KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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| MudMonkey Veteran Date registered: Jun 2013 Location: CO Vehicle(s): '03 G500 Posts: 274  | ||
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| Gilamonster Veteran Date registered: Sep 2013 Location: New Mexico Vehicle(s): G #1 (mix of a 460, 461 & 463), #2 is a 2000 G500 Posts: 151 | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963  | ||
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| Boy G Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Bushveld, South Africa Vehicle(s): Diesel G's: 617A and 602 Posts: 1683  | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| burqueDOKA Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle(s): 1550L37Doka, 404 ROCKMOG, '00 G500 Posts: 622  | ||
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| Re: W460 bumper Design BurqueDOKA, we will be looking at that in the coming months. Is the rear door able to open 180 degrees? Might have to make a double jointed setup for that, sounds like a challenge  We are also going to be looking at small side steps as the new tires and wheels are now on Gertrude. Running BFG All Terrain KO2s @ 235/85/r16. Load range E tires. They ride amazing and are really quiet. (IMG_20160605_140233036_small4.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_20160605_140233036_small4.jpg (785KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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| burqueDOKA Elite Veteran Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle(s): 1550L37Doka, 404 ROCKMOG, '00 G500 Posts: 622 | Re: W460 bumper Design langoff-road - 6/6/2016 7:13 AM BurqueDOKA, we will be looking at that in the coming months. Is the rear door able to open 180 degrees? Might have to make a double jointed setup for that, sounds like a challenge We are also going to be looking at small side steps as the new tires and wheels are now on Gertrude. Running BFG All Terrain KO2s @ 235/85/r16. Load range E tires. They ride amazing and are really quiet. Yes, the rear door will open 180 degrees and stop without hitting anything, that is when you have the spare out of the way and the door stop disconnected. I have made the commitment to keeping the spare off my door in order to allow my door to open all the way because of my full width drawers in my cargo area. The trick now is to have a spare tire carrier that will hinge the spare out of the way when open, yet still locate the spare in its stock position when closed so as not to interfere with the ladder. | |
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| Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186  | ||
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| Re: W460 bumper Design I really appreciate all of your input and critique and constructive criticism I just got off the phone with my friend who is the fabricator (he was the head of fabrication for when we did armored vehicles) and I have some final dimensions of the tube bender. We don't have the access to the tools we used to but we are making do with what we have. I redesigned the end tubes last night which naturally changed some things and now they will be changing again since my bend radius was off by an inch haha. The ends will be more squared off next iteration but since we don't have access to a cnc mandrel bender we are limited as to what we can achieve so they will still have a round shape, just a elongated round as we have one bending die... we are happy just to have at least one though. In addition to the tube ends, I'm also trying to incorporate the stock Mercedes bumper end caps for a more finished look. Since our G doesn't have fender flares it's going to be interesting as it all has to be measured by hand. I miss Mercedes factory math data so so much as I could design something around factory data and it usually fit perfectly. I'd love to send laser cut files this week but I'm going to wait until the fabricator has some time to eye the file over. Happy fabricator... happy everyone. Edited by langoff-road 6/7/2016 11:16 AM | ||
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| Boy G Expert Date registered: Feb 2007 Location: Bushveld, South Africa Vehicle(s): Diesel G's: 617A and 602 Posts: 1683 | ||
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| RE: W460 bumper Design After fighting with trying to figure out how these bends were going to not work with a 8" bend radius I might have found a solution. I stumbled upon an off-road Jeep shop in Minnesota that will do custom bends fairly economically. I went ahead and did some sleuthing regarding there bender and found that you can get a 1.75" die with 5" cl bend radius and got to work. The shop just got back with me and it turns out it's a 6" radius but it's cnc controlled. I got to work last night and took your suggestions regarding the end tubes. I agree that the completely rounded ends didn't fit with the boxy design of the G. This to me is the most difficult area as there are design constraints regarding machinery and how it can be done but making it look and function with the style and character of the vehicle. I've decided to try and mimic the look of the headlight surrounds of the older G as its a really cool design element that really stands out on this version of the G. Also re did the headlight guards to match it as well. (1111111.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1111111.jpg (131KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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| MudMonkey Veteran Date registered: Jun 2013 Location: CO Vehicle(s): '03 G500 Posts: 274 | ||
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| Inkblotz Expert Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Georgia Vehicle(s): 90 300GD "Thundering Turtle II", w/ 603A turbo Posts: 3186 | ||
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| bram_r Expert Date registered: Apr 2007 Location: the Netherlands Vehicle(s): 1984 MB 280GE, 1982 MB 300GD, 1986 Subaru XT 4WD Posts: 1659 | ||
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| RE: W460 bumper Design Figured I would bump an old thread. Getting married in a month and well, this project had to take a bit of a back seat to that. Still plugging and chugging on the design. Hoping to get files sent to laser cutter in Dec or January. Will need to purchase a welder and get to learning. Should be fun. Any ways here's an update shot. It's showing two logo plates as I haven't gotten the time to reconfigure the data plate on the drivers side. Need to find a place that can make these as i would like them to look similar to either an old range Rover badge or a data plate from an old machine. (ttteee.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ttteee.jpg (170KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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| DUTCH Administrator Doppelgänger Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: US, GA, Atlanta Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter Posts: 9963 | ||
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| brabus g36 Elite Veteran Date registered: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Vehicle(s): 89 230GE cabrio, 88 280GE LWB, 87 300GD pickup Posts: 608 | ||
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