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Intermittent Door Lock Actuator
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Posted 2/20/2018 4:39 PM
Floobydust
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Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

The door lock actuator on my right front door has become intermittent as of late. It will work fine for several days and the stop working for several days and so on. The lock mechanism if free to move and locks/unlocks manually just fine. When the actuator is not working you can hear a click inside the door which I think might be the might be a relay in the door controller, but I'm not sure about this. My theory is that the lock/unlock command is sent via the CAN buss to the door controller which in turn activates the door actuator via a relay. Does any one know if the system actually works that way or is there a direct connection to the actuator?

Also, does anyone have experience with their lock actuators failing intermittently like this or do they just die and stop working when they go? I'm trying to decide if I should order and actuator before I open up the door panel (not easy in the dead of winter - may have to wait until spring).

Thanks!




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Posted 2/20/2018 7:43 PM
ychung
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

I had a similar issue a few months ago. I didn't have any problem with locking the door, but unlocking was on and off. When it didn't work, it felt like it just didn't have enough push to open it.
I've installed a new actuator and problem solved. However, when I was putting it back together I've noticed that one of the connecting rod that actually pushes up the rod to open the door wasn't clicked in to mounting hole (I wish I had taken the photo).
If I were you, I'd buy a new actuator, however, I'd check all connecting rods before installing a new one. I don't think it hurts to have a spare actuator.
Also, please have a few door panel retainer ready as I needed three replacement.
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Posted 3/8/2018 6:49 AM
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator


One of my doors - passenger was acting intermitently and somehow cause the whole central lock system to stop working. I replaced the actuator but stil haven't managed to get the central locking system to work. It's a real pain as I have to keep asking passengers ( my family ) to lock the doors and then I have to double check that they did lock it. Does anyone know what could cause the central lock to stop working all of a sudden?
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Posted 3/8/2018 12:58 PM
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

Probably bad solder joints on the Kiekert central locking relay.

Here is a thread, in German, on the problem/cure: http://www.viermalvier.de/ubbthreads.php/topics/470009/Re:_Relais_u...

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Posted 3/13/2018 5:25 AM
King_GH
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

Thanks Alan

The article actually refers back to one here called "My central lock quit working today" .... Funny I noticed I had asked a similar question on it. Central locking is probably not the most resilient feature on the Gs. It appears I had the same problem on my previous G but I can't remember how I fixed it

Edited by King_GH 3/13/2018 5:25 AM
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Posted 3/13/2018 5:37 AM
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

AlanMcR - 3/8/2018 6:58 PM

Probably bad solder joints on the Kiekert central locking relay.

Here is a thread, in German, on the problem/cure: http://www.viermalvier.de/ubbthreads.php/topics/470009/Re:_Relais_u...



Hi Alan, KingGH has a 95 300GD and I tought there was no central locking relay until about ´96. AFAIK everything is controled by the main accurator in the driver´s door on the the W460 and first W463s.

http://www.kurth-classics.de/mercedes-g-zentralveriegelung/

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Posted 3/19/2018 5:27 PM
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RE: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

Hi Luky

That was a very useful article. So will you suggest I start investigating from the 'suspect door' or start with the driver's?

thanks

K
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Posted 4/17/2018 3:48 AM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

I just had this happen the other day (2008 G55). I sprayed all the areas (latch, lock, behind handle, door pin) with WD40 and 2 hours later it worked again. Worth getting a new actuator just in case.

Would you know the part number? Right side door. Thanks
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Posted 4/18/2018 1:16 PM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

Part# is 0048202542
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Posted 4/24/2018 6:30 AM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

ychung - 4/18/2018 1:16 PM

Part# is 0048202542


thanks. It has been working well now since the WD40 soak. I'll keep the P/N for future reference.
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Posted 4/24/2018 7:28 AM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

That's an expensive bugger, been searching e-bay for an alternative - no luck. Anyones has an alternative source to MB?
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Posted 4/25/2018 10:32 AM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator

Anyones has an alternative source to MB?


Vlad has a two-wire aftermarket one for a fraction of the OEM price. See: http://www.fourbyfourclub.com/W463ElectricalParts/W463ActuatorDoorA...
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Posted 4/26/2018 4:52 AM
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Re: Intermittent Door Lock Actuator


From the description on fourbyfour, the rear actuator in my 95' can't be used for the driver. Has anyone got the number for the 95 driver side? I may need to pysche myself to buy that if the WD40 method doesn't work for me.
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