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Posted 5/27/2018 4:26 PM
kriswaatch
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w460 vs w461 vs w463

Hey everyone;

I'm biting the bullet and going to buy a 1990 250GD g-wagon tomorrow.

I've been researching the hell out of this truck, and I just can not seem to find out if it's a w460, w461 or w463. Wikipedia says it's a w460, but on another forum, someone was selling a 1990 250GD and he said it was a w461. Then, on some other page online, a 250GD 1990 was for sale, and they specified it was a w463. Am I missing something here? Was this particular truck, for this particular year in all models (w460, 461 and 463). And, sorry to ask, but what's the main differences between these models? The g-wagon I'm buying is a Steyr-Puch, does it make a difference. From what I read online, they were all made at the same company in Graz, Austria, but just sold as different makes in different countries. The 250GD I'm buying has only rear wheel lockers. If I understand correctly from what I read online, even though the truck I'm buying doesn't have the front lockers, it can either be added, or it's there already...right?

Sorry for all the questions, but, I'm just not getting far with all the different info I'm reading everywhere.

Cheers
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Posted 5/27/2018 4:51 PM
DUTCH
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RE: w460 vs w461 vs w463

If you are buying it tomorrow, you should already have the VIN. What are the first three numbers after the WDB? That will answer your question.
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Posted 5/27/2018 7:24 PM
Warren T
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RE: w460 vs w461 vs w463

Hi Criss, I`m in Saint Sauveur not far from you.
I may know this truck so give me a call.

Warren
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Posted 5/27/2018 7:49 PM
4x4abc



Date registered: Apr 2006
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RE: w460 vs w461 vs w463

the 250GD 1990 was produced as 460 as well as 461
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Posted 5/27/2018 10:12 PM
kriswaatch
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Date registered: May 2017
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Vehicle(s): 1990 W461 250GD Wolf
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

Dutch is right, I'm going to find out tomorrow when I take a last look at it. I'll mark down the VIN while I'm at it. Thanks

Warren, we talked last year. If I end up buying the truck, and if it's ready by next Friday, I'll give you a hollar and come and visit you on my way up north. Most likely Friday evening or Saturday morning.

Thanks 4x4abc
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Posted 5/28/2018 6:58 PM
kriswaatch
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Date registered: May 2017
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

So.................it's a 461
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Posted 5/29/2018 3:18 PM
Otiswesty
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

Here is an example of a 1990 250GD 463, for reference
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/mercedes-benz-g-250-diesel-white-...
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Posted 5/29/2018 4:50 PM
DUTCH
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

otiswesty - 5/29/2018 3:18 PM

Here is an example of a 1990 250GD 463, for reference
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/mercedes-benz-g-250-diesel-white-...


How can you tell that it's a 463?
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Posted 5/29/2018 7:58 PM
kriswaatch
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Date registered: May 2017
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

Good question Dutch.

I'm picking up the truck next Monday (needs to be inspected before it can be street lega), can't wait.

I'm still curious as to what the difference between all these models are.
I see that w461 designates it as ex-military.
W463 is the newer model, but, what changed???
And, I'm guessing the W460 designation is a previous model, but again, what changed from w460 to w461.

Anyone have any good suggestions for winch bars?
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Posted 5/29/2018 9:21 PM
4x4abc



Date registered: Apr 2006
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

all 463 250GD were short wheel base
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Posted 5/31/2018 1:26 AM
Otiswesty
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

DUTCH - 5/29/2018 1:50 PM

otiswesty - 5/29/2018 3:18 PM

Here is an example of a 1990 250GD 463, for reference
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/mercedes-benz-g-250-diesel-white-...


How can you tell that it's a 463?

I used to have ESP.
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Posted 5/31/2018 4:06 AM
Luky
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

DUTCH - 5/29/2018 10:50 PM
How can you tell that it's a 463?


Fuel filler hole on the right rear fender and W124 instrument cluster are the best signs.
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Posted 6/1/2018 12:18 AM
kriswaatch
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Date registered: May 2017
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Re: w460 vs w461 vs w463

Geeks
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