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ewalberg
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany
Vehicle(s): 2000 g500
Posts: 1887
| Rear bumper riddle...
Hello again,
So there's no way I'm getting my beloved custom steal rear bumper through the TUV (German DOT). I've found an e-bay where it looks like there are a couple G500 bumpers for sale.
He lists it as a 2012-2016 bumper. Which i think would fit.
He has pictured factory sticker from inside the bumper which lists the part numbers (all together on one sticker):
A 463 880 34 71 - As far as I can tell it's genarally G500 compatible. This should work.
A 463 880 37 71 - Looks like it's for 2016 and 2017 g550 and G63, which when I looks like the frame mounts are different.
A 463 880 36 71 - what i can find says it's for 2013-2016
So the mystery is why are all three part numbers on one bumper?!? He's posted picture showing all three on there. Maybe it's just to help link the correct mounts for different frame configurations?
Is there any decent way of being sure it'll fit?
Here's the ad: https://www.ebay.de/itm/MBZ-G-class-G63-REAR-BUMPER-2012-16-G550-G55...
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| RE: Rear bumper riddle...
If you have the backup sensors in your bumper, the P/N for your center section is: A.463.880.18.71.
The two end caps are extra, and ridiculously expensive! |
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ewalberg
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany
Vehicle(s): 2000 g500
Posts: 1887
| RE: Rear bumper riddle...
Yeah, what the guy is selling includes the end caps and the reverse and rear fog light so it's a fair deal. I DO have back-up sensors, including on my steel bumper, but I would be willing to forgo the sensors if it meant avoiding paying through the nose for a fiberglass bumper.
I suppose one other option would be to see if anyone wants to trade bumpers. |
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AlanMcR
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, CA, Los Altos
Vehicle(s): G300DT E300DT 230SL
Posts: 3500
| RE: Rear bumper riddle...
Will the TUV accept a cracked bumper? Those ought to be cheap and you can swap it back for the steel bumper.
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fernweh
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Calabasas, CA - Centenario, BCS - Luebeck, Germany
Vehicle(s): Few Mercedes-Benz, a Toyota Amphibious and a Vespa
| RE: Rear bumper riddle...
ewalberg - 8/7/2018 3:44 PM
Hello again,
So there's no way I'm getting my beloved custom steal rear bumper through the TUV (German DOT ). I've found an e-bay where it looks like there are a couple G500 bumpers for sale.
He lists it as a 2012-2016 bumper. Which i think would fit.
He has pictured factory sticker from inside the bumper which lists the part numbers (all together on one sticker ):
A 463 880 34 71 - As far as I can tell it's genarally G500 compatible. This should work.
A 463 880 37 71 - Looks like it's for 2016 and 2017 g550 and G63, which when I looks like the frame mounts are different.
A 463 880 36 71 - what i can find says it's for 2013-2016
So the mystery is why are all three part numbers on one bumper?!? He's posted picture showing all three on there. Maybe it's just to help link the correct mounts for different frame configurations?
Is there any decent way of being sure it'll fit?
Here's the ad: https://www.ebay.de/itm/MBZ-G-class-G63-REAR-BUMPER-2012-16-G550-G55...
Hi Erik,
if you have the original back up sensors, they will only fit the bumpers until 2006, as the newer sensors have a smaller diameter.
Not sure what the TUV issue is with your steel bumper?
I do have an European version of our All Steel Rear Bumper ready to go in Duesseldorf, Germany. Obviously without TUV approval, but this bumper looks very much like the original bumper, all the original Mercedes rear light fixtures will fit that bumper. All the original Mercedes bumper brackets and hardware are being reused for the install. A German G-Driver told me, a single approval from the Rheinland TUV should not be a problem. |
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gbenzer
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Dec 2006
Location: Georgia
Vehicle(s): 2007 G-500, 2017 Audi Q7
Posts: 418
| RE: Rear bumper riddle...
Erik,
I have one of Karl's steel rear bumpers and it is top notch quality. One time my G was at the dealer and the shop forman asked me "Where did you get that bumper? We can't find the MB part number on it!". That should let you know how good the quality is.
Burch |
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thebigblue
Date registered: Jan 2012
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| Re: Rear bumper riddle...
The TÜV- issue might be that it´s not factory original...
That might be enough in Germany to not pass, you´re not even allowed to have a diffrent wheel and tire than what´s written in the registration certificate = factory spec.
Edited by thebigblue 8/11/2018 5:30 AM
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WEBIII
Extreme Veteran
Date registered: Oct 2010
Location: Inlet Beach, FL
Vehicle(s): 461.318, 463.241
Posts: 315
| Re: Rear bumper riddle...
If the bumper is still in the states, I’ll swap with you |
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ewalberg
Expert
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Past: San Francisco. Present: Germany
Vehicle(s): 2000 g500
Posts: 1887
| Re: Rear bumper riddle...
Yeah, I'm not 100% sure that aftermarket bumpers can't make it through the TUV, but I'm guessing no because it has to do with crash safety. Untested is untested.
The wheel and tire issue is fully depressing. It gets right down the model number. You can't put G55 wheels on a G500. What I see is that most people have two wheel-sets. One for winter and one for summer and it's more often the summer wheels appear to be non-conforming, and then you can switch to the winter wheels for the periodic TUV evaluations.
Edited by ewalberg 8/12/2018 10:02 AM
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