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DB605
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Date registered: May 2015
Location: South FL
Vehicle(s): 99 G500 LWB
Posts: 17
| Opinion on underbody rust
Hello,
I previously owned a Europa 99 G500 and the guides and DIYs on P3 were great help! Unfortunately I crashed it and no longer have it. Been looking for another Euro but have also considered some 04/05+ MBUSA trucks.
Below are some images of the undercarriage of a low miles euro 99 from the rust belt. Major components look ok but there is more rust on other components than I expected for the miles. Could someone please comment on the rust and if looks excessive?
Car also has a different exhaust set up that concerned me with dual mufflers on one side. That seemed odd.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,
Antonio |
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bluegg
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Date registered: Nov 2016
Location: Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle(s): 1985 300GDT, 2003 Beetle 1.8t S, 1982 F350 SC Dual
Posts: 141
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
Dual mufflers or dual tail pipes exiting one muffler like a sedan?
Maybe it's a muffler and a resonator with dual tail pipes, again, like a sedan.
Pulling dual exhaust pipes from an in line motor with one exhaust manifold is pretty but an expensive waste and if not properly balanced (more $$) can lead to back pressure problems and you could end up with a costly dead pipe on far side from exhaust manifold. Also if hangers fail the weight can twist and break or unseat the manifold.
A turbo motor needs larger exhaust volume as quick as possible so a single 2-1/2" or 3" pipe from manifold to tail will do the trick for the engine.
A dual tail pipe end can be mounted for a beefier look but that's all esthetics. |
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bluegg
Veteran
Date registered: Nov 2016
Location: Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle(s): 1985 300GDT, 2003 Beetle 1.8t S, 1982 F350 SC Dual
Posts: 141
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
For surface rust- a 1:9 mixture of pure black molasses and water can soak away rust in a couple of weeks.
Spray this mixture under the car once a week and let it eat for a week then power wash.
Do this repeatedly until you're happy.
It's safe and biodegradable and won't blind your cat.
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DB605
Member
Date registered: May 2015
Location: South FL
Vehicle(s): 99 G500 LWB
Posts: 17
| RE: Opinion on underbody rust
no luck on the upload. adding a dropbox link. hope that might work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/97ugyc7ry7mado9/g%20rust.pdf?dl=0
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Otiswesty
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Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| RE: Opinion on underbody rust
DB605 - 10/6/2018 5:58 AM
I previously owned a Europa 99 G500 and the guides and DIYs on P3 were great help! Unfortunately I crashed it and no longer have it.
DO YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE CRASHED VEHICLE FOR BUY BACK????? |
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Otiswesty
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Date registered: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, Oregon
Vehicle(s): 463.241, 461.213
Posts: 3004
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
The rust is all surface stuff. Looks terrible but is likely to be functionally not important right now. 10 years down the line may be more issues if left untreated. Already you will have issues with rusty bolts and such, but a cheap price and low miles might make it worth it. |
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DB605
Member
Date registered: May 2015
Location: South FL
Vehicle(s): 99 G500 LWB
Posts: 17
| RE: Opinion on underbody rust
I do not access to my old G, unfortunately.
Edited by DB605 10/9/2018 11:50 AM
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DB605
Member
Date registered: May 2015
Location: South FL
Vehicle(s): 99 G500 LWB
Posts: 17
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
otiswesty - 10/9/2018 1:52 AM
The rust is all surface stuff. Looks terrible but is likely to be functionally not important right now. 10 years down the line may be more issues if left untreated. Already you will have issues with rusty bolts and such, but a cheap price and low miles might make it worth it.
Thank you for the reply. My previous truck was from the southwest so it didn’t have any corrosion like this below even though it had mare than double the miles. Good to know, thanks!
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DUTCH
Administrator Doppelgänger
Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: US, GA, Atlanta
Vehicle(s): 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 TDI,2018 Sprinter
Posts: 9963
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
I am giving serious consideration to selling my 2000 G500 NMLE with 92,000 overly maintained miles on the clock, and it has never lived in the rust belt. If I do, it will be the end of 34 yrs of continuous Gwagen ownership. No final decision on that yet. |
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DB605
Member
Date registered: May 2015
Location: South FL
Vehicle(s): 99 G500 LWB
Posts: 17
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
DUTCH - 10/9/2018 1:23 PM
I am giving serious consideration to selling my 2000 G500 NMLE with 92,000 overly maintained miles on the clock, and it has never lived in the rust belt. If I do, it will be the end of 34 yrs of continuous Gwagen ownership. No final decision on that yet.
If you came to the decision, I'm sure the list of interested parties would probably be a long one, but I would be one of them! |
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JamesG
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Conifer, Colorado
Vehicle(s): 2011 G550, 2000 L.C.,1997 L.C.1987 FJ60
Posts: 98
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
Dutch, say it isn't so? Forgive my curiosity, but do you have your eye on something else? Don't know if you recall, but I but 4 16" rims from you with Hankook tires on them waaaay back in 2002. I still have them and are now on my 2011 G. I still need a fifth one to complete the set. As I recall you offered me a good price at the time, so thanks again. |
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JamesG
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Date registered: May 2006
Location: Conifer, Colorado
Vehicle(s): 2011 G550, 2000 L.C.,1997 L.C.1987 FJ60
Posts: 98
| Re: Opinion on underbody rust
Sorry about the hijack by the way |
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