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Posted 9/25/2006 3:47 PM
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Interparts CV Kits

Hi Everyone,

 

We have found an alternative source of G-Wagen CV kits from a US based company by the name of Interparts. We have two of the kits here and the quality seems to be satisfactory when compared side by side to the GKN product. We did test fittings with factory MB hubs and everything went together very well. That being said, does anyone have any experience with the Interparts products?

http://interparts.com/

 

This is a link to their online web store based in the UK:

http://www.partsinabox.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_12v_110Kw_08_84_08_89_Suv__4X4__4402.html

 

I'm looking for any and all feedback on this product, as we would like to know of any shortcomings before we add it to our inventory. FWIW, the kits are manufactured in China and that's the reason for my post concerning quality issues.

These kits would retail for around $80 per side with the boot, hardware and grease included.

 

Thanks,

 

-Sean Philyaw

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RE: Interparts CV Kits

EuroTruck - 9/25/2006 3:47 PM

FWIW, the kits are manufactured in China and that's the reason for my post concerning quality issues.

These kits would retail for around $80 per side with the boot, hardware and grease included.



Considering that the non-ABS version lists for 189,00 Euros and the ABS version lists for 298,00 Euros per side in Europe, I think I'd be very wary on the quality. I hope someone here has direct experience with these.
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RE: Interparts CV Kits

EuroTruck - 9/25/2006 3:47 PM

These kits would retail for around $80 per side with the boot, hardware and grease included.

 

Forgot to mention that these are for non-ABS G's.

 

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RE: Interparts CV Kits

Sean,

Who makes these boots and related parts? I did not see that in your note...that is, maker's name.

Thanks!

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RE: Interparts CV Kits

Hi Thomas,

The manufacturer's info is below. I fixed the links so that they are now clickable.

Thanks,

 

-Sean



EuroTruck - 9/25/2006 3:47 PM

Hi Everyone,

 

We have found an alternative source of G-Wagen CV kits from a US based company by the name of Interparts. We have two of the kits here and the quality seems to be satisfactory when compared side by side to the GKN product. We did test fittings with factory MB hubs and everything went together very well. That being said, does anyone have any experience with the Interparts products?

http://interparts.com/

 

This is a link to their online web store based in the UK:

http://www.partsinabox.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_12v_110Kw_08_84_08_89_Suv__4X4__4402.html

 

I'm looking for any and all feedback on this product, as we would like to know of any shortcomings before we add it to our inventory. FWIW, the kits are manufactured in China and that's the reason for my post concerning quality issues.

These kits would retail for around $80 per side with the boot, hardware and grease included.

 

Thanks,

 

-Sean Philyaw

 

 

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Re: Interparts CV Kits

Sean, I want to thank you for looking out for the "G" community. I know where to go for parts when I need them.... Alas, I am not familar with that product.
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RE: Interparts CV Kits

Hi Sean,

Whilst I do not have any experience with these parts if they are ISO rated that is worth something. They do say on their website that they are rated. Regards. Pete
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RE: Interparts CV Kits

I agree on the ISO certification. That does lend a certain amount of credibilty to the product.

 

A few photos for comparison sake. Interparts CV joint on the left and the GKN CV joint on the right.

 

Feedback is welcomed.

 

-Sean

 





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There are lots of ISO certs, but if they're talking 9000, or 9001, all that means is that they have procedures for doing things.  The gist of it is, "They say what they'll do, and they do what they say".  There's nothing at all to stop them from using those procedures to turn out CV joints with glass-brittle cages, or butter-soft races.  The 9k cert just means that what you'll get will be consistently what the procedures are designed to produce, not that the parts are particularly spiffy or suited to the job.

It's not a relilable measure, but for whatever reason the induction hardening appears to be deeper on the GKN joint than on the Chinese one (blue ring is farther from the inner surface)  That could mean darned near anything as far as suitability for service goes, just an observation.

-Dave G.

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hipine - 9/27/2006 11:55 AM

There are lots of ISO certs, but if they're talking 9000, or 9001, all that means is that they have procedures for doing things. The gist of it is, "They say what they'll do, and they do what they say". There's nothing at all to stop them from using those procedures to turn out CV joints with glass-brittle cages, or butter-soft races. The 9k cert just means that what you'll get will be consistently what the procedures are designed to produce, not that the parts are particularly spiffy or suited to the job.



Very well explained Dave! I was going to post something along the same line, but you said it so much better.

Bottom line is that these certs are book-keeping certs, designed by and for the job preservation of accountants.
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RE: Interparts CV Kits

Sean,

I've put interparts c/v's in about a dozen land rovers that I have serviced at our shop, and they seem to hold up well and have uniform build quality. One of our customers has put 65K on a set with no problems, but that was in rovers - not a G - so there may or may not be a difference in how they hold up.
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Merz-Ben - 9/27/2006 3:23 PM Sean, I've put interparts c/v's in about a dozen land rovers that I have serviced at our shop, and they seem to hold up well and have uniform build quality. One of our customers has put 65K on a set with no problems, but that was in rovers - not a G - so there may or may not be a difference in how they hold up.

 

 

Ben,

 

That is the type of information that I was hoping to see from someone with first hand knowledge of their product line.

 

I really appreciate it.

 

Thanks,

 

-Sean P.

 

 

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RE: Interparts CV Kits - UPDATE

This is an email that I received from the Interparts Quality Manager based in New York.

I'm also checking on pricing for W463 CV kits for use with ABS and pricing for the CV boots alone. I'll revert when I know more.

Thanks,

 

-Sean P.

=======================================================================

 

Sean,
 
I have been informed by our UK office that you are interested in purchasing from our company.
 
Let me assure you that Quality is our middle name. We operate three factories in China all possessing ISO/TS 16949:2002 certificates. Our New York main office, R&D, engineering, assembly and warehousing facility, also ISO 9001:2000 certified, introduces additional new axles to the aftermarket every day. We have a state of the art bar production cell and in house assembly dept. This allows us to introduce new models in short order, if the joints are available. Our factories in China also have full Engineering staffs to reverse Engineer to OEM tolerances, as new joints are introduced. Each factory has the capability to perform material certification, in process quality assurance and axle torque tests routinely. We audit our factories bi-monthly to insure that nothing is left to chance.
 
As indicated by our UK office, we supply on average 80,000 axles per month to the US market and another 20,000 to large rebuilders in Canada.
 
If you would like to find out more please visit www.interparts.com or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx and I would be happy to help you further.
 
 
Thanks,
 
James
QSM
Interparts Industries Inc.

 



Edited by EuroTruck 10/10/2006 3:46 PM
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RE: Interparts CV Kits - UPDATE

Sean,

Thanks for the followup. I guess the two statements in their letter that might give me cause for concern are:

1.) "introduces additional new axles to the aftermarket every day"

2.) "reverse Engineer to OEM tolerances, as new joints are introduced"

Both statements indicate that they are not OEM suppliers. Does this affect or is it because of their product quality? I obviously have no idea; but the fact that they do not supply OEM is cause for thought.

(It would be interesting to find out where the "problem" CV joints that Phil purchased earlier this year in Europe were made.)
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By the same token that ISO certs are somewhat worthless, often times so is OEM status. For a smaller company to break into OEM status is difficult. I don't think I would discount them on that basis, just like I wouldn't give a full blessing based on an ISO cert.

For me the clincher was that some CV's by the same company survived 65k miles in a Rover....wouldn't that be some kind of record
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That sounds good Sean.  You should see if you can get a tour of their facilities some time.  It would be some neat operations to see.  Machining, polishing, induction hardening.  Good gear-head stuff. 

Thanks for taking the time to do this kind of work.  It would be plenty easy to "just" be a supplier of "gray boxes", but you're doing that really well AND going the extra mile developing alternative sources for stuff like CVs and drive shafts.  I can't tell you how much it pleases me that you're moving the G support in the USA farther in the last year than it was done in the previous 20.  At least with regard to parts availability at prices that can let someone other than rap stars own G-wagens for the long haul.

Thanks again,

-Dave G.

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Brent - 10/10/2006 4:57 PM

By the same token that ISO certs are somewhat worthless, often times so is OEM status. For a smaller company to break into OEM status is difficult. I don't think I would discount them on that basis, just like I wouldn't give a full blessing based on an ISO cert.



I don't disagree. Having been involved with several of my customers and their attempts - many successful - to become OEM automotive suppliers, I can tell you that when it come to US automakers, price carries as much weight as (sometime more than) other factors. So, there's always a possibility that these folks' quaility might be too good and/or are too expensive to get an OEM contract.

The other sad part of getting a US automaker OEM contract is that, after you squeezed the process as hard as you could from a cost standpoint in order to get the contract in the first place, you are then told that they expect a 7-10% reduction in price if you want to keep the contract for the following year.
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RE: Interparts CV Kits

Brent - 10/10/2006 3:57 PM
...For me the clincher was that some CV's by the same company survived 65k miles in a Rover....wouldn't that be some kind of record :raiseeyebrows:


Well I don't know about others, but the CV's in my Range Rover have survived 200k and still seem fine.

Brent, you know I couldn't let that go


I'd also like to commend Sean for his tremendous effort towards independent G servicability, while maintaining his support of Unimogs and Pinzies. He's helped me out on many occasions, exactly what we need!

Thank you!

Garret



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