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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347  | ||
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| TWODOGS Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK Vehicle(s): Norwegian Army 240GD Posts: 584  | ||
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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347 | ||
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| amzimmy Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: South Africa/Italy Vehicle(s): GD300 1981, Alfa GT 3,2 V6, Alfa Brera Q4 3,2 V6. Posts: 850 | Re: 460 trailer hitch elevatorbernie - 10/5/2006 10:26 AM Sorry pic too big to post. do you know how to shrink to less than 800kb? Easy! download PIXresizer it's FREE (600x400) is a good size! www.download.com.ph/PIXresizer.htm I'm interested in your set-up!  amzimmy  Edited by amzimmy 10/6/2006 6:49 AM | |
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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347 | Re: 460 trailer hitch Thanks, amzimmy here are the resized pic of my hitch. Not mounted yet though as the base plate warped from heat of the welding. You can see in the pic barely, but I didn't want to mount it and bend frame brackets. I had the shop mill it flat, now just waiting for powder coating. Any questions are welcome, Bern (hitch 002 (small).jpg) (hitch 003 (Small).jpg) (hitch 004 (Small).jpg) Attachments ----------------  hitch 002 (small).jpg (26KB - 10 downloads) hitch 003 (Small).jpg (34KB - 9 downloads) hitch 004 (Small).jpg (28KB - 9 downloads) | |
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hipine Date registered: Jul 2006 Location: US, CO, Bailey Vehicle(s): 460 1980 280GE w. 617A  | ||
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| amzimmy Elite Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: South Africa/Italy Vehicle(s): GD300 1981, Alfa GT 3,2 V6, Alfa Brera Q4 3,2 V6. Posts: 850 | RE: Very nice! Very nice indeed! Question: shouldn't there be an additional gusset for reinforcing? taking in consideration the weight of the trailer (in odd position) and possible collision with rock (being lower down). Not a criticism, by all means, just a mere suggestion! Maybe some dimensions, please? amzimmy Edited by amzimmy 10/8/2006 5:43 AM (hitch2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- hitch2.jpg (10KB - 7 downloads) | |
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| gwagen460swb Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Vehicle(s): 280GE SWB, Toyota Highlander, BMW530i, RR HSE Posts: 513 | ||
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| G4Garret Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oak Ridge - Knoxville - Windrock Tennessee Vehicle(s): 2000 G500, U1100, SLK350, LR 101, WC-63 6x6 Posts: 243  | RE: 460 trailer hitch As requested, here are pics of the 2" receiver hitch I built for my G500. For reference, here is the original thread: Garret's Original 2" Hitch Thread In summary, I made it completely out of 12.7mm steel plate. I did this becuase I was concerned over the geometry of the design, specifically the drop from the mount to the receiver section itself appeared as if it could induce significant moment into the hitch assembly, particularly during difficult off-road recovery operations that may impart a large amount of tension in the receiver box. As mentioned earlier, gussets would have been a good solution, however there is no room for them due to the G500 bumper. My master plan is to ultimately build a new bumper/hitch combination that will raise the receiver height, and be more off-road friendly all around, and it will match the aesthetic and functional qualities of my new winch bumper. Honestly, from an off-road standpoint, the factory rear bumper is a joke on the G500, and in retrospect I wish I had done this in the first place. Don't be discouraged by the plate warping after the weld. It happened on mine too, and in my opinion it is just a sign that you got good penetration on the welds. Fortunately, I've got a Bridgeport in the Garage which made quick work of it.  Anyway, that is a really nice job on the hitch! More refined looking than mine. You did good! I'll trade  Garret   Edited by G4Garret 10/8/2006 8:28 PM | |
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| G4Garret Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: Oak Ridge - Knoxville - Windrock Tennessee Vehicle(s): 2000 G500, U1100, SLK350, LR 101, WC-63 6x6 Posts: 243 | ||
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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347 | Re: 460 trailer hitch Garret your hitch pics were the inspiration for my hitch. I called around various places looking for a hitch, without luck of course. Then I email eurotruck. Steve forwarded some pics of a customer's hitch. The very same pics you have posted, so thanks to you also. I have no concerns about the strength of my hitch or Garret's; compared to what hitch manufactures are selling these days we should able to pull the Titanic from ocean bottom with these hitches:biggrin: When I drew it up I did consider gusseting on sides and the front as mentioned. The side gussets would be over kill given that it is made from 1/2 inch plate boxed on all sides ( I also box ended the receiver channel) and welded to 5/8 plate on mounting base plate and only 8inches tall, any side leverage strong enough to twist it would surely bend frame mount plate. As for the front gusset much the same story here. Any trailer tongue load that would bend it will wreck frame of truck, besides due to the fact that I still have stock split bumper with licsense plate in middle there wasn't any room. This hitch will gain me 2inches or more of ground clearance over stock Oris hitch, and now I can use drop receicever tongues (removed for offroading) to level for different trailer heights. One big safety improvement over the Oris hitch is the opposing safety chain hoops we have both included in our hitches, this ables the trailer safety chains to be cross hung under trailer tongue. If trailer comes off it hangs suspended off road until your can pull over. The Oris hitch has none, the only hoop my G has is 12inches offset to the drivers side, it would be ugly to have trailer come off at speed with this set up  Another thing that didn't work for me was the Oris's 50mm ball, the trailers here in North America use inch not metric size balls. I know some might use 50mm ball with 2inch trailer tongue, whats a few mm less you say, lots because the profile of ball isn't the same either. I didn't feel confident to use it so I built safer improved hitch. I will post some pics when I get it mounted.  Bern.(oris (small).jpg) (hitch 008 (Small).jpg) (hitch 006 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- oris (small).jpg (27KB - 7 downloads) hitch 008 (Small).jpg (32KB - 7 downloads) hitch 006 (Small).jpg (35KB - 7 downloads) | |
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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347 | Re: 460 trailer hitch Amzimmy your questions are welcome and not taken as criticism. When I designed my new hitch I used Garret's idea and pics and my old Oris hitch as a guide as far as strength and safety are concerned. I figured if it is good enough for MB to put on the G it should be ok to improve upon it. As I stated in my previous post the Oris has safety flaws as far as my use is concerned. So I made improved version that gives more clearance and versatility. As for bashing into rocks the old one did that too, however mine comes no lower than my tailpipe (about 2 1/2" below bumper) so don't think there will be a problem. Only extreme departure angle would cause contact. So in fact the hitch doubles as a rear skid plate and will save my tailpipe from being crushed. I don't think I would use it for a recovery hitch point if stuck and pulling from the side; I think the frame mount would give out before the hitch, but straight back should be better than Oris. (my hitch is shorter=less leverage) A new rear bumper would be better idea for extractions. Edited by elevatorbernie 10/9/2006 3:36 AM | |
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| TWODOGS Extreme Veteran Date registered: Apr 2006 Location: UK Vehicle(s): Norwegian Army 240GD Posts: 584 | RE: 460 trailer hitch very nice , tidy job Twodogs | |
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| elevatorbernie Expert Date registered: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Vehicle(s): 1989 280GE Posts: 1347 | ||
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