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G320 Electric Door Locks
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Posted 12/11/2006 12:47 AM
Braingears
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G320 Electric Door Locks

I am still having problems with my electronic door locks, both when I use the key or use the door piece.

When I lock or unlock the car, I can hear a very small click (as if it is attempting), but the doors fail to lock or unlock. I seems like there is a loose terminal or bad relay somewhere. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It goes in spurts.
In the cases where it does not work, I have to walk around to the passenger side, unlock the door, them climb over the seats to unlock the driver's door. This gets VERY embarrassing when you have people from work with you...

I have checked everything that I can think of in the fuse/relay area under the glove department box (on the passenger side foot well). I cannot find the exact relay or connection that operates this. I have looked through the manuals, but I still cannot find anything.

Please remember that I have the pre-USA version (which typically has less electrical problems), and I do not have any relays under the front seats or in the center console (arm rest) area.

I am suspecting a loose wire/terminal or bad relay somewhere. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it? Does anyone know if the circuit is in a series going from door to door to door? Can a single door's connection be causing all of this?

Thanks in advance for your help...

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Posted 12/11/2006 2:26 AM
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RE: G320 Electric Door Locks

My 96 has the lock relay in the metal electronics box under the hood. If you are looking in from the right side fender, the lock relay is the right most one that attached to the wall of the box closest to you. Not the one attached to the wall of the box facing forward. Caveat: the electronics box in may have a different shape or parts placement than yours. The relay is silver colored and ~1"x2"x3". It is mounted upside-down so that the connector is on the top. If you can't find it I'll try to shoot a picture of it.
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Posted 12/11/2006 2:44 AM
Braingears
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

That is exactly what I needed to know!
Since my G-Wagon was manufactured 12/96, I will assume that it will either be nearly identical or totally different.
Do you know if this module controls anything else?
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Posted 12/12/2006 4:45 AM
Fenalaar
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

The central lock on my '86 300GD ceased to function and I traced the problem to a loose connector inside the drivers door. This system will lock or unllock the other doors when you use the key in the drivers door. It's not remote controlled.

Is it only the drivers door that fails to lock or unlock, or is it all the locks ?

Johan-Kr
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Posted 12/12/2006 10:01 AM
Braingears
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

It is all or nothing.
To make it more fustrating, my G-Wagon does not have a key on the driver's door. Whose bright idea was that? I can only get in using the passenger door.

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Posted 12/12/2006 7:01 PM
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

Braingears - 12/10/2006 11:44 PM

That is exactly what I needed to know!
Since my G-Wagon was manufactured 12/96, I will assume that it will either be nearly identical or totally different.
Do you know if this module controls anything else?


That is all the relay does. The central locking system is broken up into two major components. The IR control in the rear view mirror and the relay I described above.

Did you find the relay? I can shoot a picture of it if that would help.

...Alan
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Posted 12/13/2006 12:31 AM
Braingears
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RE: G320 Electric Door Locks

I think that I have found the problem. It looks like someone has spliced into the door lock's wires. I just attempted to "crimp them down" a little further, and it seems to be working (at least while I was testing it). I cannot tell if it was done by the factory, Europa, or by the people who installed the secondary alarm.

I'm personally glad that it's a wire rather than one of the expensive modules. If it reoccurs, I will take apart the wire splice and solder them together.

 





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Posted 6/4/2007 12:50 PM
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230GE -- Electric Door Locks

I have the same problem with my '86 230GE. When I insert the key into the driver's door lock (and turn it twice) to open all of the other doors up), all other doors do not unlock. You can hear the system clicking, but there is nothing happening to the other door locks.

The automatic door lock system used to work, but hasn't worked for over a year now.

What could be the problem?

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Posted 6/4/2007 1:31 PM
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RE: G320 Electric Door Locks

thanks for the Picture. I am just in the middle of converting the stupid Infrared Unit into a radio controlled one...

 

Klaus

 

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Posted 6/5/2007 2:30 AM
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RE: 230GE -- Electric Door Locks

86230GE - 6/4/2007 12:50 PM I have the same problem with my '86 230GE. When I insert the key into the driver's door lock (and turn it twice) to open all of the other doors up), all other doors do not unlock. You can hear the system clicking, but there is nothing happening to the other door locks. The automatic door lock system used to work, but hasn't worked for over a year now. What could be the problem?

That is nearly identical to what I had. Inside of the door lock control module, there are two solenoids that connect to the Blue and White wires. These solenoids reverse the circuit to lock and unlock the doors.

Blue (+) / White (-) = Lock Doors
Blue (-) / White (+) = Unlock Doors

When the module is not active, both wire are ground: Blue (-) & White (-)

In my case, when you unlocked the door, the second solenoid did not switch properly to the negative(-), they were actually both positive(+). On top of that, one of the two positive wires had a slightly different resistance (or something). This caused the sound I heard going to the actual doors, but it did not provide enough power to actually unlock the doors.

When I took apart the module, I found that one of the solders going to the solenoid was slightly burnt and not making the proper connection. I figure this may have been caused by switching the locks from lock > unlock > lock too quickly. When the module is given the signal to lock or unlock, it creates this circuit for approx. one second, then switches both wires to negative(-) as I mentioned above. If the module is currently locking the doors, and then given the command to unlock the doors, it has to reverse the polarity on each of the solenoids. I'm guessing that this switch of polarity while it still has the circuit open can short circuit and melt the solder on the board.

If you have a screwdriver (to gain access to the module) and a 12 V test light, I can walk you through which component is causing you the problems. If you are lucky, you can solve the problem yourself... 

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Posted 6/5/2007 9:00 AM
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RE: 230GE -- Electric Door Locks

Thanks for your reply. Where is the door lock control module located in my 230GE?

Is it a simple fix, or does the part cost a lot?

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Posted 6/5/2007 9:05 AM
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

What is your VIN?
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Posted 6/5/2007 9:19 AM
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My VIN is: WDB46023917046437
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Posted 6/5/2007 4:37 PM
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

Your vehicle does not have a power door lock module. You have an actuator in the drivers door. This is the part you will want to check. The actuator in the drivers door is the "master" unit and all the other door actuators work off of the drivers door unit.
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Posted 6/6/2007 1:02 AM
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86230GE - 6/5/2007 9:19 AM My VIN is: WDB46023917046437

A0038203242 - Right Front Door / Rear Door
A0038204910 - Left Door

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Posted 6/6/2007 11:12 AM
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Re: G320 Electric Door Locks

What are these part #'s for? The door lock modules? But Steve said that only the drivers side door is the problem?...

Now, I'm a little c nfused!!

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Posted 6/6/2007 8:48 PM
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86230GE - 6/6/2007 11:12 AM What are these part #'s for? The door lock modules? But Steve said that only the drivers side door is the problem?... Now, I'm a little c nfused!!

Since I had the EPC page open, I listed all of the numbers...

I figured it's better to have all of them rather than not.

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