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Posted 4/25/2007 3:21 AM
TWODOGS
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460 Power take off

Hello all,
has anybody got any pictures of the power take off, fitted to the 460 transfer box ?
Cheers
Twodogs

Edited by TWODOGS 4/25/2007 3:24 AM
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Posted 4/25/2007 3:51 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

TWODOGS - 4/24/2007 9:21 AM

Hello all,
has anybody got any pictures of the power take off, fitted to the 460 transfer box ?
Cheers
Twodogs


Are you referring to this one?

amzimmy



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Posted 4/26/2007 5:04 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

thats the one anyone got the parts drawing ?
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Posted 4/26/2007 7:02 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

How is this?

Mark



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Posted 4/26/2007 8:13 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

G Whizz. looked into all this once, found it expensive.
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Posted 4/26/2007 8:26 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

I would try to find a used unit and replace the whole thing rather than trying to cobble one together. Try these guys on your side of the pond. I think that is where Amzimmy got his photo from.

http://gw-gelaendewagen.de/10X78/Frameset9530.htm

Mark

Edited by Inkblotz 4/26/2007 8:30 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

Thanks for the information Gents .
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Posted 4/26/2007 10:07 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

You got it served on a sliver-tray!

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Posted 4/26/2007 11:36 AM
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RE: 460 Power take off

Inkblotz - 4/26/2007 1:26 PM

I would try to find a used unit and replace the whole thing rather than trying to cobble one together. Try these guys on your side of the pond. I think that is where Amzimmy got his photo from.

http://gw-gelaendewagen.de/10X78/Frameset9530.htm

Mark


G&W have that pic up for about 3 years, when I was last there they didnt have one.
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Posted 4/26/2007 1:02 PM
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RE: 460 Power take off

Before I fitted the 711.116 "Granny" gearbox I was interested to get me a PTO for my hydraulic winch, so I kept the picture, but now with the "granny gear"I don't need the PTO.

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Posted 4/26/2007 1:40 PM
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Re: 460 Power take off

I have a PTO fitted to my 280 to run the hydraulics winches. the pto cost me £600 and the gear £80, 8 years ago. there easy to fit. if you look at the transfer epc there is a spacer, no 34, this is removed when you dismantle the t/case and you replace this spacer with the gear no 8 on the pto epc, then just bolt on the pto case straight onto the t/case, what is a pain is trying to get the right postion for the lever, there is two types of lever because there were two types of pto, one for the early t/case and one for the later t/case, see the different end case no's 59 and 60, the mounts were different.

you can see there are two flanges on the pto, however you can only use the rear to attach a pump or shaft as there is no room to fit anything on the front one.

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Posted 4/26/2007 7:40 PM
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Then there is the W463 PTO - manual pages

Then there is the teaser in the VG150 transfer case manual. Nice diagrams on how to R&R the W463 PTO. Problem is they are a bit like unicorns, I've never actually seen one

Oh, and to save you some time. It isn't in the EPC either.


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Posted 4/27/2007 12:43 PM
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Re: 460 Power take off

spent weeks tracing the PTo for the 463, ended up speaking to graz to find out they dont exisit, they deceided not to manufacture them.
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Re: 460 Power take off

G wizz - 4/27/2007 9:43 AM

spent weeks tracing the PTo for the 463, ended up speaking to graz to find out they dont exisit, they deceided not to manufacture them.


Yes, I know. The aggravating part is that somewhere in an engineers drawer in Graz there are two or three of the prototypes. They PTO would not have gotten into the repair manual if it hadn't been built and tested.
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Posted 4/27/2007 5:17 PM
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Re: 460 Power take off

I wonder why they did'nt.
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Posted 4/28/2007 12:18 PM
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RE: 460 Power take off

heres mine.



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Posted 4/28/2007 12:20 PM
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RE: 460 Power take off

then theres the pump



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Posted 4/28/2007 12:46 PM
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RE: 460 Power take off

Looks like a bit of Fred Dihbnas welding
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Posted 4/28/2007 1:00 PM
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Re: 460 Power take off

does the job
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