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Indiana Drew
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| Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
I have looked through the archives of the Forum and have only seen threads about Turbo Diesels. Any experience with the concept of adding a turbo to a an M110 engine? Indiana Drew |
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KERR
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dumb question but whats a M110? |
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BenzDieselTuner
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| Re: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
2.8 liter DOHC 6 cylinder with hemisperical combustion chambers, featured in many models of the 70's and 80's |
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Indiana Drew
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| Re: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
Not a dumb question, probably my ignorance ... If I understand, its the engine in a 280GE ... In any event, to rephrase the question, has anyone ever had experience with turbo charging an early'80s 280GE?
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BenzDieselTuner
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now i dont personally know of any, but i'm sure that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE has put a turbo on one of these.........its an inline 6, perfect for it.........
the models i know that had the M110 were:
280
280E
280C
280CE
280S
280SE
280SEL ?
280G ?
280GE
280GEL ?
280SL
Edited by BenzDieselTuner 6/4/2007 10:50 AM
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Merz-Ben
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| RE: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
I don't personally know of any turbo charged M110's, but the variety in the G's has lower compression than a passenger car engine, which would make it more sutable for a turbo. The worst thing will be getting the Bosch CIS fuel system to put enough fuel to keep from melting it down (or blowing head gaskets).
Cheers,
Ben
P.S. You might want to check the 116 and 123 sedan forums and maybe the 107 convertable forum, they might have some info on turbocharging a M110.
Edited by Merz-Ben 6/4/2007 10:58 AM
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hus55
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| RE: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
if you can find the back issues of MERCECES BENZ ENTHUSIAST (uk magazine),there was a test on a w123 280CE with nitros and it "flew....!"
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nugat
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| RE: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
If the engine now burns 20l/100km on average and much more offroad, what would be the fuel consumption of the turboed one? |
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KERR
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well with any G your not going to get grate power with a turbo regardless of the motor do to no place for a intercooler.. Im sure something small could be added on with out any problems and plumbing would not be that hard... Your just going to be blowing a LOT of hot air into the moto...
My fathers friend year ago had a twin turbo 300SL... |
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G wizz
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| Re: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
there was a guy here in the uk that had twin turbo on his 280 M110 G wagen , end result, it was quick, that is until it went bang !
Edited by G wizz 6/4/2007 3:36 PM
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Indiana Drew
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| Re: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
I WAS going to make a Bi Turbo joke earlier, but thought better ... Why would there not be room for an intercooler though??? |
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G wizz
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| Re: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
it was also very hard to keep cool. |
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AlanMcR
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| Intercooler
You can get a later model (96+) 463 bumper. It has a specially made section in the center designed for the OM606 intercooler. Might as well use the same intercooler while you are at it. It fills the entire hollow section, making optimal use of the air flow. Air enters and exits just inboard of the bumper mounts. |
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Indiana Drew
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| RE: Intercooler
Alan: Good thinking - I have an '02 G500 and it has that little opening and what I assumed is a transmission cooler ... Indiana Drew
Edited by Indiana Drew 6/4/2007 4:44 PM
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AlanMcR
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| RE: Intercooler
Indiana Drew - 6/4/2007 1:43 PM
Alan: Good thinking - I have an '02 G500 and it has that little opening and what I assumed is a transmission cooler ... Indiana Drew
Correct. The G300DT (and, I think, the G55K) has the intercooler in the bumper, the rest of the recent G's have the transmission oil cooler in the bumper. There is a special bracket that holds the transmission oil cooler just below and behind the bumper. I haven't hit it yet, and I do off road with some vigor. |
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Indiana Drew
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| RE: Intercooler
I was looking at my front bumper the other day and the transmission cooler is well protected by the front skid plate.
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| RE: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
ive been playing with turbo cars for years, you need bigger hole that the one in bumper for a intercooler to work well. Also you have to remember the plumbing that goes in and out. Im not saying it wouldnt work, just be very hard.
If i had old diesel id look for a super charger. You want the power down low and thats what a blower is good for. To get turbos to make lots and lots of power you have to have a big one. Big turbo dont spool up well, and when they do they are hard to drive. On a old diesel that doesent revve high it would not be that fun.
you will have to click to make it bigger but this is how big my intercooler is on the supra and im pushing the limites of it,
this is it with bumper off..
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| RE: Turbo Charging an M110 Gas Engine???
I heard from someone that the 2.8ltr M110 is the engine Nissan closely copied for it's 2.6ltr RB26 straight six (the engine in GTRs) and that alot of what can be done to that Nissan engine can be done to an M110 and you know you can do a hell of a lot to those Nissans |
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