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VCR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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280GE Information request
I had give-up already the idea of getting a G model because its was impossible for me to get the one, and suddenly I have the possibility to get a long 280GE from 1983.
All my research went to the diesel model because of the prohibitive price of gasoline so I don’t have specify knowledge of this model.
Are there any specific problems?
Can it be converted to LPG? (I wonted a diesel to run on SVO but if it runs LPG its ok for me)
Ill see if I can get the VIN
Thanks in advance, Vasco
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79percent
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Remscheid / Germany
Vehicle(s): 300 GE
Posts: 537
| RE: 280GE Information request
no special Problems with the 280GE. It can run on LPG as well. Sometimes the distributor and/or the injector nozzels have to be replaced when using LPG. RGDS Klaus |
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VCR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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Thanks Kaus. I’m waiting for the VIM, Ill post were if I get it. |
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petermerle
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: Cape Town ( deep south )
Vehicle(s): W460 *1, W123 *2, W124
Posts: 1315
| Re: 280GE Information request
Why can't you import a G into POrtugal ?
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VCR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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I can but for a 20 year old 3000 diesel G I would have to pay around 6000€ in tax. And whit the new eco tax that starts in the end of this month people are saying it Ill cost 15000€ to import plus 500€ every year of road tax. This makes it very expensive to import and the few whit Portuguese plates are very over priced. Unfortunately I can’t afford it :-( |
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vantunes
Date registered: Dec 1899
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have you bought the G? I think I also know that truck. I have 230GE converted to LPG, there are tricks to make it work with cheap LPG kits but is possible. If you go forward i need help just contact me.
Boa sorte (good luck)
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nugat
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Vehicle(s): 280GE, 290GD, c303
Posts: 876
| Re: 280GE Information request
Have you done LPG sums?
Eg (Poland) it is half the price of gasoline (petrol) but your G will burn 50% more taking some light offroad into account (in 280GE 30l/100km instead of 20 petrol). For simplicity let's assume gas is 1 euro/l and LPG 50 cents (really 95 petrol is 1.20 here) . 1000km with petrol will cost you 200 euro and 150 euro with LPG. You will save the cost of your LPG installation (1000 euro) after 20,000 km. After another 20,000 km you better have some money saved for the engine overhaul. Other issues notwithstanding. Do the figures for your market and see if it is really worth it. |
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VCR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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Hi Vantunes
Do you go to see Dakar? I think I’m going whit same friends and a loaned 300GD perhaps he organize same thing.
No G yet, but still looking.
I have done the account, gasoline is also 2 times the price of GPL in Portugal, my first choice would be a 300GD
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roughneck
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Date registered: Apr 2006
Location: UK, Germany & USA
Vehicle(s): 270 cdi.300 GD 300 GE.lwb 300 GE.swb. Disco 2
Posts: 4398
| RE: 280GE Information request
I have carried out several LPG conversions on 280s and have been dissapopinted.
The 280 GE is a low compression engine, when converted to LPG you will loose a lot of power as the calorific value of LPG is a lot lower than gasoline. the Jetronic injector system can not be fully isolated a shunt has to be put in to the pump, this is not entirley successful as the capiliary action of the injection system coupled with the pressure retained in the fuel regulator causes mixtures to change and induces a lot of back firing.
Conclusion: the 280 GE is not an ideal engine to gas. |
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VCR
Date registered: Dec 1899
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Ill just have to find a 300GD then :-) |
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nugat
Elite Veteran
Date registered: Jan 2007
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Vehicle(s): 280GE, 290GD, c303
Posts: 876
| RE: 280GE Information request
For those on the other side of the pond:
You call LPG (liquid petroleum gas) propane. In fact it's a mixture propane-butane.
Not to confuse with CNG=compressed natural gas (methane). |
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vantunes
Date registered: Dec 1899
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I have a 230GE with k-jectronic injection so i have the same problems that you have with the 280GE. My is running in LPG for 5 years and til now i only have 2 times back fire on the engine. Have a lot more back fire on a BMW 520I. This car has now 292.000 Kms and has LPG for more than 92.000 km and still going strong as ever. Most of the problems with engine reliability running LPG has to do with lean mixtures that some installer tend do do.
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vantunes
Date registered: Dec 1899
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VCR - 7/5/2007 9:48 PM
Hi Vantunes
Do you go to see Dakar? I think I’m going whit same friends and a loaned 300GD perhaps he organize same thing.
No G yet, but still looking.
I have done the account, gasoline is also 2 times the price of GPL in Portugal, my first choice would be a 300GD
I have the certainty that I go to the DAKAR. This is something that I cannot lose. maybe we can meet before, I do not know where I will go on the vacations if I go for these sides I will show you my G running on LPG. This if I don't by another look here:
http://www.pointedthree.com/disc/forums/showthread.php?tid=8088&pos...
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