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Posted 7/5/2007 8:59 AM
Braingears
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Springs

I need to replace my front springs. I currently have the three-white-dot springs in front (and also need the part numbers)

For sake of the forum, I would also like to know what is available out there...
I remember reading that there used to be a lot of spring selections available, but there is very limited access on many of them now.

What spring combinations are actually still available? Does anyone have the part numbers of the springs that are still available too?

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Posted 7/5/2007 9:50 AM
KERR

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Re: Springs

I have nothing with part number but i thin on the other forums there was a huge write up with part numbers and compression rates.


I love my ORC spring for the ride and lift i got, However i dont have any "flex" when you put the G on Lift you have a lot of "drop" but do to the straight axle you dont get a lot twist. At some point ill look into longer shocks, and maybe sway bar disconnects...


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Posted 7/5/2007 10:10 AM
TWODOGS
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RE: Springs

I have just fitted a set of springs with a 3 inch lift,
that were from a company in Holland " Roughneck " obtained them and has fitted out his fleet with them , very good road handling .
Twodogs




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Posted 7/5/2007 10:33 AM
fourbyfourclub
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RE: Springs

Hello Chuck,
You have white front springs on your G just because you have a winch .
Part: 460 321 04 04 62
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Vlad
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Posted 7/5/2007 3:44 PM
petermerle
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RE: Springs

Chuck,
See my summary of W460 springs . They mostly seem to be available , some you can get from SACHS / SPIDAN
Peter



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Posted 7/5/2007 3:47 PM
petermerle
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TWODOGS - 7/5/2007 4:10 PM

I have just fitted a set of springs with a 3 inch lift,
Twodogs

Any problems with vibrations as the driveshaft angles may have changed?
PEter
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Posted 7/5/2007 6:55 PM
Titus Pullo
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RE: Springs

Here is Harald's list of springs, the most full one I know http://4x4abc.com/G/springs-list.jpg with all the part #.

TWODOGS, your truck looks awesome man. Can you give me on PM some more info?
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Posted 7/5/2007 9:19 PM
WolfG
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RE: Springs

My G just had a new pair of springs by my machinist. I noticed the label part number is 460 324 0204. I am new to the G and have no immediate plan for special usage, therefore let him decide the correct springs to use.

Now, after reading you guys calling all the different color codes and wonder what they mean, and their function?

Please explain.

Thanks.

 

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Posted 7/6/2007 2:40 AM
TWODOGS
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RE: Springs

Peter ,
no problems with drive shaft angles as yet ....time will tell
Twodogs
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Posted 7/6/2007 12:02 PM
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The front weight is almost constant and the springs behavior too. (THIS DIAGRAM WAS POSTED BY AMYNIZY .....IN bw). Normaly a wheel is on the 5000 N zone .

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Posted 7/6/2007 2:11 PM
Braingears
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Re: Springs

I remember seeing a one-dot white / two-dot white / and three-dot white. Is this still the case?
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Posted 7/6/2007 2:33 PM
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RE: Springs

my front ORC's were added well after the ORC rears and ends up keeping the truck completely level front to back, when it is unloaded. with load, it sags a bit in the back. The rear ones had lots of load on them, and must be "broken in" while the fronts are a few months old. is there anything to do to bring the front down without compromising compression, durability, or safety? I've seen "lowering kits" for cars that are basically a clip that compresses a portion of the spring, but this always seemed questionable.
other thoughts?
thanks,
-macjack
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Posted 7/6/2007 2:54 PM
Braingears
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macjack - 7/6/2007 2:33 PM my front ORC's were added well after the ORC rears and ends up keeping the truck completely level front to back, when it is unloaded. with load, it sags a bit in the back. The rear ones had lots of load on them, and must be "broken in" while the fronts are a few months old. is there anything to do to bring the front down without compromising compression, durability, or safety? I've seen "lowering kits" for cars that are basically a clip that compresses a portion of the spring, but this always seemed questionable. other thoughts? thanks, -macjack

Add a spacer to the rear. You can always remove it later...

 

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Posted 7/6/2007 2:56 PM
Braingears
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boewick - 7/6/2007 12:02 PM The front weight is almost constant and the springs behavior too. (THIS DIAGRAM WAS POSTED BY AMYNIZY .....IN bw). Normaly a wheel is on the 5000 N zone .

What is the conversion from (N) Newton to lbs or Kg?

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Posted 7/7/2007 4:24 AM
petermerle
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Re: Springs

9.8 N = 1kg. My attachment previously calculates the spring length at various loads and differences at 5000N ( 500 kg )
Peter
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